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Anthropic has already been burned before on this. DeepSeek was trained on million of conversations with Claude. And DeepSeek created thousands of free account
by kube-system 4mo ago
Anthropic has already been burned before on this. DeepSeek was trained on million of conversations with Claude. And DeepSeek created thousands of free accounts to burn all this compute at their expense.
- ainch 4mo agoAnthropic's claim was that Deepseek collected ~150k conversations. https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-distillation-attacks https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-dist... I think the extent of distillation by Deepseek specifically is overstated. For comparison, Minimax collected over 13m 'exchanges', which starts to sound a lot more like large-scale distillation.
- kube-system 4mo agoAh, dang it. My college professors warned me about this: the Wikipedia page I read the other day is wrong!
- 59nadir 4mo agoDid you read a Wikipedia page, or did you read a LLM-generated summary? When I looked this number up yesterday the LLM summary claimed it was millions, but I opened the Anthropic post I was looking for and verified it was indeed just 150,000. Are you sure you weren't just being lazy and trusting the summary?
- kube-system 4mo agoI said what I meant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepSeek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepSeek > In February 2026, Anthropic accused DeepSeek of using thousands of fraudulent accounts to generate millions of conversations with Claude to train its own large language models.[57]
- zxexz 4mo agoIf that's all it took to make Deepseek so good, I'll gladly ship High-Flyer all my personal 150k claude/chatgpt conversations in exchange for Deepseek 5 (and a rack of B200s or Ascend chips)
- ceejayoz 4mo agoAnd they're hilariously pissy about it for a megacorp that did the same with the entire Internet and every library book they could get their hands on.
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