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How do you know that? Do you know what it's like to be me?
by kelseyfrog 5mo ago
How do you know that? Do you know what it's like to be me?
- fredoliveira 5mo agoThey can make the claim to know what it is like to be you as much as you can make the claim that you know what it is like to be a bat.
- kelseyfrog 5mo agoI will know the difference. That's enough for me.
- satvikpendem 5mo agoHow will you know the difference unless you are a bat? You cannot.
- kelseyfrog 5mo agoI can. You don't have access to my subjective experience to be able to claim I don't.
- satvikpendem 5mo agoYou can't because you cannot become a bat, so thinking you can is just that, thought. I don't need your subjective experience to know.
- kelseyfrog 5mo agoAre you claiming you know what it is like to be me? You can't know about the bat thing unless you know what it is like to be me.
- satvikpendem 5mo agoI know you're a human, therefore I know you cannot know what it's like to be a bat, as an objective fact, regardless of how you think you think subjectively.
- kelseyfrog 5mo agoI am a human who objectively knows what it's like to be a bat. I have greater epistemic authority over what I know than others.
- satvikpendem 5mo ago> who objectively knows what it's like to be a bat. Sigh. Thinking you know and knowing is not the same, especially thinking you "objectively" know something. Maybe you should read the article posted instead of commenting these sorts of sentences.
- kelseyfrog 4mo agoI've read it many times over the years. I objectively know what it is like to be a bat and you cannot claim I don't without claiming you objectively know what it is like to be me. If this frustrates you, then congratulations; we have a starting point for discussion. Be open to describing where that frustration originates.
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- jubilanti 5mo agoYou're close, really close! None of us know what it is like to be anyone else, that's the point. We think we can imagine we know, but we truly do not.