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It is normal, expected, and healthy to offer criticism of self interested proposals. And mock even. What is unhealthy is to imply someone said what they did not
by pseudalopex 4mo ago
It is normal, expected, and healthy to offer criticism of self interested proposals. And mock even. What is unhealthy is to imply someone said what they did not.
- tptacek 4mo agoIf that's what this is, a bank-shot snarky criticism of the proposal, fair enough. I read it instead as a criticism of a stakeholder having the temerity to make a proposal in the first place. It's not their job to anticipate and capture all your objections. That's your job!
- movealongnow 4mo ago[flagged]
- tptacek 4mo agoSorry, audibly chuckling about the idea of software developers who consider themselves "everyday working class people". Keep it coming, Tom Morello.
- lbreakjai 4mo agoBelieve it or not, but not every software developer is making 7 figures annually with a few millions in vested shares. Even within the US.
- tptacek 4mo agoI see, the line between "working class" and "upper class" is $999,999 in total comp.
- lbreakjai 4mo agoThe clue is in the name. Working class doesn't mean you earn more than average and have some savings. You're working class if you live from your work rather than your capital. My household income is in the top 0.7% in the Netherlands, yet I'll never accumulate enough capital to stop working, so I'm working class.
- tptacek 4mo agoYou've axiomatically derived a definition of "working class" that includes software developers in the top 0.7% of regional income. Gorgeous.
- lbreakjai 4mo ago115k€ gross, that gives you about 67k€ net. 5600€ per month. Minus a 2200€ mortgage, 400€ of health insurance, 1200€ of childcare, 200€ for the car repayment and insurance, 200€ for the water/electricity/internet and 800€ of groceries, that leaves me with a whopping 600€ per month. My class interests are infinitely closer to a part-time starbucks barista than they are to a millionaire.
- tptacek 4mo agoYeah, you and the Youngstown tool and die workers, it's hard to believe the class solidarity wasn't more obvious to me.
- pseudalopex 4mo agoEveryone holds a stake in this discussion. And intellectual honesty is everyone's obligation.
- tptacek 4mo agoYes, that is a shorter way of saying what I just said.
- pseudalopex 4mo agoAmodei did not fail to anticipate and capture all objections. He dishonestly avoided well known objections. This was what you meant?
- tptacek 4mo agoNo, it is not his job to state all the objections you might have to his proposal! That's your job.
- pseudalopex 4mo ago> all the objections you might have My comment before corrected this straw man clearly.