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There are plenty of legitimate uses for Tor.

by shocks 14y ago

jcromartie 14y ago
I wonder what proportion of Tor is used for legal purposes? I personally hold an extremely low estimate for that figure.
- geoka9 14y ago
  What about email encryption? Should it be banned, too?
- flyinRyan 14y ago
  Really, you can't imagine anything? You can't imagine a good thing someone might want to do over a network that is (well, is meant to be anyway) completely anonymous? Seriously, right now with Arab Spring going on, Syria shutting off the internet, China having the biggest firewall, other countries fiddling around with censorship, people going to jail for tweets or clicking "like" on facebook and you can't think of a valid reason one might want to be able to hide their online activities from prying eyes?
shocks 14y ago
Here is a good link, with more information. https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html.en#WhatAboutCriminals https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html.en#WhatAboutC...
kevindication 14y ago
You don't find yourself in litigation for the legitimate uses of Tor.
- shocks 14y ago
  This is not a valid argument. Anything can be used for evil, but that doesn't mean we should avoid or outlaw everything. A knife can be used to cut a chicken, it can also be used to kill someone. You would not deny your neighbour when he asks to borrow a knife because "you could kill someone with it".
  - kevindication 14y ago
    The OP doesn't want to enable the bad uses of Tor, nor do they want to get into legal trouble for it. It's demonstrated that by running a Tor exit node, you are at a high risk of the former and at least some risk for the latter. Both carry significant costs. By not running a Tor exit node, you eliminate these risks to yourself. The risk that your neighbor will use your knife to kill someone is far lower by comparison. Additionally, the risk that there is a legal threat should they choose to do so is also quite low.
- mistercow 14y ago
  Depends on your location and your definition of "legitimate". If you define "legitimate" by what your particular government says is OK, then no, you won't find yourself in court for those uses. Unless you get extradited to a government that has different opinions.

There are plenty of legitimate uses for Tor.

by shocks 14y ago

There are plenty of legitimate uses for Tor.

I wonder what proportion of Tor is used for legal purposes? I personally hold an extremely low estimate for that figure.

geoka9 14y ago
What about email encryption? Should it be banned, too?
flyinRyan 14y ago
Really, you can't imagine anything? You can't imagine a good thing someone might want to do over a network that is (well, is meant to be anyway) completely anonymous? Seriously, right now with Arab Spring going on, Syria shutting off the internet, China having the biggest firewall, other countries fiddling around with censorship, people going to jail for tweets or clicking "like" on facebook and you can't think of a valid reason one might want to be able to hide their online activities from prying eyes?

shocks 14y ago

Here is a good link, with more information. https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html.en#WhatAboutCriminals https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html.en#WhatAboutC...

kevindication 14y ago

You don't find yourself in litigation for the legitimate uses of Tor.

shocks 14y ago
This is not a valid argument. Anything can be used for evil, but that doesn't mean we should avoid or outlaw everything. A knife can be used to cut a chicken, it can also be used to kill someone. You would not deny your neighbour when he asks to borrow a knife because "you could kill someone with it".
- kevindication 14y ago
  The OP doesn't want to enable the bad uses of Tor, nor do they want to get into legal trouble for it. It's demonstrated that by running a Tor exit node, you are at a high risk of the former and at least some risk for the latter. Both carry significant costs. By not running a Tor exit node, you eliminate these risks to yourself. The risk that your neighbor will use your knife to kill someone is far lower by comparison. Additionally, the risk that there is a legal threat should they choose to do so is also quite low.
mistercow 14y ago
Depends on your location and your definition of "legitimate". If you define "legitimate" by what your particular government says is OK, then no, you won't find yourself in court for those uses. Unless you get extradited to a government that has different opinions.