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This is madness. The polling is in and the public hates, positively hates AI. So of course the response is to do AI even more. https://newrepublic.com/article/2

This is madness. The polling is in and the public hates, positively hates AI. So of course the response is to do AI even more. https://newrepublic.com/article/209163/ai-industry-discovering-public-backlash https://newrepublic.com/article/209163/ai-industry-discoveri...

shimman 5mo ago
Yeah but the public is against progress. The public cries for material needs like medicare for all, universal childcare, a jobs program? These are all clearly foreign actors that want to prevent American progress on AI! They must be Chinese agents for all we know, what sort of American wants to provide healthcare for their family over proudly paying higher utility rates to ensure a new batch of tech bros become billionaires?
bell-cot 5mo ago
You don't move up the Cyberdyne Systems org chart by caring what the stupid little meatbags think.
Dlanv 5mo ago
The public hates ai but also uses ai in mass quantities. Capitalism abides by your dollars not your voice. So people can decry ai all they want but if they keep using it, it won't go away. Even then it's probable that AI is a big enough productivity boost for certain industries that even if no consumers used AI, businesses would still prop AI up enough for it to live on.
- FabCH 5mo ago
  Capitalism abides by dollars only so long as force is not in play. When the Molotov cocktails start flying, dollars lose their grip. Simone Weil had good theoretical and practical observations on force vs economy 100 years ago.
  - hcurtiss 5mo ago
    Nah, dollars buy war machines. And for the first time in human history, we are on the precipice of projecting substantial ground force without the need for humans.
  - diordiderot 5mo ago
    Lol, sure. until the first "revolutionary" takes one in the chest. Americans are too comfortable. Leftist rhetoric is virtue signaling and costless.
    - bigyabai 5mo ago
      Arguably, they don't take one in the chest. Luigi Mangione lives in notoriety what he did; most people can't even name the CEO he killed, let alone frame them as a martyr. I disagree with theories of continual revolution, but it's pretty clear that class warfare still has valuable asymmetric qualities.
    - mindslight 5mo ago
      Rightist rhetoric is vice signalling, costly, and destructive. I'll choose the virtue signalling.
- akomtu 5mo ago
  The public is forced to use AI at work and outside of work because the corpos are determined in inserting their AI everywhere. Then the people come back home and see that their energy bills have doubled because of AI datacenters. Of course people hate AI.
john_strinlai 5mo ago
there are polls where a sample of people say they hate ai. on the other hand, there are a billion+ weekly active users. from a business perspective, which of those two statistics would you give more weight?
- bluefirebrand 5mo ago
  How many of those people are just feeling like they have a gun to their heads? Use the AI or become unemployed and unemployable? "People use AI so this must be a revealed preference" is such a bad argument when people are feeling so precarious
  - john_strinlai 5mo ago
    >How many of those people are just feeling like they have a gun to their heads? Use the AI or become unemployed and unemployable? in the context of answering the implied question of the parent (everyone hates it so why do they keep doing it?), it does not matter at all.
    - bluefirebrand 5mo ago
      Of course it matters If a large proportion of people are only using AI because they are being threatened with unemployment if they don't, then there's going to be massive resentment building up You may think that doesn't matter, but it does. History has shown over and over that you can only keep a lid on massive social resentment for so long before things break
      - john_strinlai 5mo ago
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- krige 5mo ago
  Out of the two? Probably the polls. "Active users" is blatantly a weasel metric.
cyberrock 5mo ago
The public is against it for hypocritical reasons that they're not afraid to inflict on someone else. They're against the water and electricity use but they also angrily demand more semiconductor production that require building whole new reservoirs in Tainan, irrigation channels from the Han river, and coal plants in Anhui, as well as restarting Fukushima. Then when those companies come build plants in Arizona and New York, suddenly the reality of how the cow is butchered hits them and it stalls in permitting for years.

shimman 5mo ago

Yeah but the public is against progress. The public cries for material needs like medicare for all, universal childcare, a jobs program? These are all clearly foreign actors that want to prevent American progress on AI! They must be Chinese agents for all we know, what sort of American wants to provide healthcare for their family over proudly paying higher utility rates to ensure a new batch of tech bros become billionaires?

bell-cot 5mo ago

You don't move up the Cyberdyne Systems org chart by caring what the stupid little meatbags think.

Dlanv 5mo ago

The public hates ai but also uses ai in mass quantities. Capitalism abides by your dollars not your voice. So people can decry ai all they want but if they keep using it, it won't go away. Even then it's probable that AI is a big enough productivity boost for certain industries that even if no consumers used AI, businesses would still prop AI up enough for it to live on.

FabCH 5mo ago
Capitalism abides by dollars only so long as force is not in play. When the Molotov cocktails start flying, dollars lose their grip. Simone Weil had good theoretical and practical observations on force vs economy 100 years ago.
- hcurtiss 5mo ago
  Nah, dollars buy war machines. And for the first time in human history, we are on the precipice of projecting substantial ground force without the need for humans.
- diordiderot 5mo ago
  Lol, sure. until the first "revolutionary" takes one in the chest. Americans are too comfortable. Leftist rhetoric is virtue signaling and costless.
  - bigyabai 5mo ago
    Arguably, they don't take one in the chest. Luigi Mangione lives in notoriety what he did; most people can't even name the CEO he killed, let alone frame them as a martyr. I disagree with theories of continual revolution, but it's pretty clear that class warfare still has valuable asymmetric qualities.
  - mindslight 5mo ago
    Rightist rhetoric is vice signalling, costly, and destructive. I'll choose the virtue signalling.
akomtu 5mo ago
The public is forced to use AI at work and outside of work because the corpos are determined in inserting their AI everywhere. Then the people come back home and see that their energy bills have doubled because of AI datacenters. Of course people hate AI.

john_strinlai 5mo ago

there are polls where a sample of people say they hate ai. on the other hand, there are a billion+ weekly active users. from a business perspective, which of those two statistics would you give more weight?

bluefirebrand 5mo ago
How many of those people are just feeling like they have a gun to their heads? Use the AI or become unemployed and unemployable? "People use AI so this must be a revealed preference" is such a bad argument when people are feeling so precarious
- john_strinlai 5mo ago
  >How many of those people are just feeling like they have a gun to their heads? Use the AI or become unemployed and unemployable? in the context of answering the implied question of the parent (everyone hates it so why do they keep doing it?), it does not matter at all.
  - bluefirebrand 5mo ago
    Of course it matters If a large proportion of people are only using AI because they are being threatened with unemployment if they don't, then there's going to be massive resentment building up You may think that doesn't matter, but it does. History has shown over and over that you can only keep a lid on massive social resentment for so long before things break
    - john_strinlai 5mo ago
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krige 5mo ago
Out of the two? Probably the polls. "Active users" is blatantly a weasel metric.

cyberrock 5mo ago

The public is against it for hypocritical reasons that they're not afraid to inflict on someone else. They're against the water and electricity use but they also angrily demand more semiconductor production that require building whole new reservoirs in Tainan, irrigation channels from the Han river, and coal plants in Anhui, as well as restarting Fukushima. Then when those companies come build plants in Arizona and New York, suddenly the reality of how the cow is butchered hits them and it stalls in permitting for years.