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The CCP is very active in the matter of AI. In fact, the DeepSeek moment was responsible for Xi calling for a private meeting with tech bosses, including the ex

The CCP is very active in the matter of AI. In fact, the DeepSeek moment was responsible for Xi calling for a private meeting with tech bosses, including the exiled Alibaba founder Ma. Which is practically unheard of in China politics. I don't have enough information to say whether the Chinese leadership sees AI "just as the next technology" or they are more cautious due to its double-sword nature. But the immense efforts for building their own AI/GPU chips plus government's billions fund pushed for AI build out, a directive for fast pace integration on large scale and a sweeping national education reform for AI, I don't think it can be seen as similar to other ordinary techs. [0] https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-prepares-295-billion-plan-fund-nationwide-ai-buildout-bloomberg-news-2026-06-09/ https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-prepares-295-billi... [1] https://www.globalneighbours.org/en/articles/china-unveils-national-ai-education-plan-to-transform-classrooms-by-2030 https://www.globalneighbours.org/en/articles/china-unveils-n... [2] https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202606/10/content_WS6a296017c6d00ca5f9a0b876.html https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202606/10/content_WS6a296017...

SXX 4mo ago
> I don't think it can be seen as similar to other ordinary techs. Not saying its a bad thing, but US and EU limited exports of chips and litography equipment to China for decades. There is literally nothing else China can do to secure their supply of chips. They would do it even without AI bubble. Its military tech now and this is not just about LLMs. Autonomous flying killbots need GPUs too.
pstuart 4mo ago
There's plenty to not like about the CCP, but their strategic investment in the country as a whole is impressive. It would be great to have that on our side as well but with the current state of things that is a non-starter.
- pooploop64 4mo ago
  We have a lot of propaganda to deprogram regarding it being evil to do that.
  - shimman 4mo ago
    Imagine how much better the future could be if we broke away from the American cold war mentality, one that has made the world more dangerous and unstable, versus actual diplomacy and cooperation?
    - interactivecode 4mo ago
      Is making the word unstable, it's actively happening. USA has the biggest and strongest propaganda machine.
      - pstuart 4mo ago
        > USA has the biggest and strongest propaganda machine Historically, yes, but the current regime is so unhinged and detached from reality that there's no possibility for them to subtly influence people about their agenda.
trollbridge 4mo ago
Perhaps investing in things like affordable housing, infrastructure, clean energy, medicine for all, education, and so on results in a country and populace that ends up producing things like DeepSeek. I am not remotely pro-CCP but I think we need to acknowledge they are doing better than we are in some of these areas.

SXX 4mo ago

> I don't think it can be seen as similar to other ordinary techs. Not saying its a bad thing, but US and EU limited exports of chips and litography equipment to China for decades. There is literally nothing else China can do to secure their supply of chips. They would do it even without AI bubble. Its military tech now and this is not just about LLMs. Autonomous flying killbots need GPUs too.

pstuart 4mo ago

There's plenty to not like about the CCP, but their strategic investment in the country as a whole is impressive. It would be great to have that on our side as well but with the current state of things that is a non-starter.

pooploop64 4mo ago
We have a lot of propaganda to deprogram regarding it being evil to do that.
- shimman 4mo ago
  Imagine how much better the future could be if we broke away from the American cold war mentality, one that has made the world more dangerous and unstable, versus actual diplomacy and cooperation?
  - interactivecode 4mo ago
    Is making the word unstable, it's actively happening. USA has the biggest and strongest propaganda machine.
    - pstuart 4mo ago
      > USA has the biggest and strongest propaganda machine Historically, yes, but the current regime is so unhinged and detached from reality that there's no possibility for them to subtly influence people about their agenda.

trollbridge 4mo ago

Perhaps investing in things like affordable housing, infrastructure, clean energy, medicine for all, education, and so on results in a country and populace that ends up producing things like DeepSeek. I am not remotely pro-CCP but I think we need to acknowledge they are doing better than we are in some of these areas.