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I, unlike you, live in a democracy and expect the government to not send goons to intimidate opponents.

by wbl 4mo ago

voakbasda 4mo ago
Where do you live? I would like to go there, because you are definitely not describing the US that I live in.
raincom 4mo ago
Government has a monopoly on violence. It is just that the developed world hasn't seen the abuses perpetrated by the enforcers of the government.
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itqwertz 4mo ago
I also live in a "democracy" as well, but the U.S. has as much corruption as any banana republic or former Soviet bloc state. We just haven't reached ostensible, Mexico-tier levels that irk the average citizen. Democracy is just the story you're told to placate your feelings of powerlessness by the powers-that-be. Any form of real threat to power through protest is squashed before it even begins. There is evidence it is fostered by the government itself.
- Freedumbs 4mo ago
  Your assertion is the US is less corrupt than Mexico? Can you explain how laws are made in America and who they benefit what percentage of the time? Can you explain the open fraud described as AI?
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tengbretson 4mo ago
> I, unlike you, live in a democracy and expect the government to not send goons to intimidate opponents. How are those two concepts actually related or linked in any way?
- troyvit 4mo ago
  I think the point is that democracies are supposed to be able to vote goons out, otherwise it isn't a democracy. In the case of the U.S. though we sort-of voted the goons in, so I'm not sure what that makes us.
  - Jimmc414 4mo ago
    A democracy where you can only vote goons out by voting other goons in is still failing at the thing democracies are for.
    - troyvit 4mo ago
      I think you nailed something. There's a huge chunk of people who believe the US lost its democracy (covid restrictions, #meToo, etc.), and so they voted like they were fighting a war.

I, unlike you, live in a democracy and expect the government to not send goons to intimidate opponents.

by wbl 4mo ago

I, unlike you, live in a democracy and expect the government to not send goons to intimidate opponents.

voakbasda 4mo ago

Where do you live? I would like to go there, because you are definitely not describing the US that I live in.

raincom 4mo ago

Government has a monopoly on violence. It is just that the developed world hasn't seen the abuses perpetrated by the enforcers of the government.

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itqwertz 4mo ago

I also live in a "democracy" as well, but the U.S. has as much corruption as any banana republic or former Soviet bloc state. We just haven't reached ostensible, Mexico-tier levels that irk the average citizen. Democracy is just the story you're told to placate your feelings of powerlessness by the powers-that-be. Any form of real threat to power through protest is squashed before it even begins. There is evidence it is fostered by the government itself.

Freedumbs 4mo ago
Your assertion is the US is less corrupt than Mexico? Can you explain how laws are made in America and who they benefit what percentage of the time? Can you explain the open fraud described as AI?
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tengbretson 4mo ago

> I, unlike you, live in a democracy and expect the government to not send goons to intimidate opponents. How are those two concepts actually related or linked in any way?

troyvit 4mo ago
I think the point is that democracies are supposed to be able to vote goons out, otherwise it isn't a democracy. In the case of the U.S. though we sort-of voted the goons in, so I'm not sure what that makes us.
- Jimmc414 4mo ago
  A democracy where you can only vote goons out by voting other goons in is still failing at the thing democracies are for.
  - troyvit 4mo ago
    I think you nailed something. There's a huge chunk of people who believe the US lost its democracy (covid restrictions, #meToo, etc.), and so they voted like they were fighting a war.