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Russia doesn't really differentiate between right and left when it comes to trying to destabilize Europe, they throw random shit against the wall and then focus

Russia doesn't really differentiate between right and left when it comes to trying to destabilize Europe, they throw random shit against the wall and then focus on what sticks.

scihuber 5mo ago
You’re absolutely right, but I’d also add that Russia’s cultural right and left are essentially just the right wing by U.S. or European standards.
- snowpid 5mo ago
  I didnt know that communist are consired right wing now.
  - ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago
    You may be confusing the Soviet Union (disbanded in 1991) with Russia. The Soviet Union (USSR) was communist, but Russia existed before and after the Soviet Union. Russia was a monarchy before 1917 and became a semi-presidential republic (under Putin) after the fall of the Soviet Union. I would also describe modern Russia as an oligarchy and certainly seems to be far-right in terms of politics.
spwa4 5mo ago
They used to though. Russian money was destined exclusively for the far-left before 2015 or so.
- TalkingCodeMonk 5mo ago
  There is credible evidence that Trump — that bastion of the far-left — has been a Russian asset since the 1980's...
  - spwa4 5mo ago
    Yes. Trump is a New Yorker. What do you think his party was when growing up? By the way, he has swapped political parties like he probably showers: every few years. Trump has been a democrat, registered, donor, everything you want, multiple times.
    - TalkingCodeMonk 4mo ago
      > What do you think his party was when growing up? This is indicative of Americas mental illness epidemic. You believe the neoliberal pro-corporate oligarchy party, that hasn't had a leftist president since Carter, is "the left"... without even a hint of irony. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
- pjc50 5mo ago
  [citation needed] - I thought there was significant proven bribery across the German political spectrum?
  - spwa4 5mo ago
    Only in one sense. You get Russian money if you're extreme. Left, right, muslim extremist, anarchist, ... doesn't matter. As long as you're willing to sabotage Germany. But the CDU (and even Die Linke for that matter, everyone vaguely "normal") has to get it's Russian bribes the old fashioned way: with large industrial projects. No freebies.
- wolvoleo 5mo ago
  Yes that's where the phenomenon of tankies came from (at least the ones of modern times)

Russia doesn't really differentiate between right and left when it comes to trying to destabilize Europe, they throw random shit against the wall and then focus on what sticks.

scihuber 5mo ago

You’re absolutely right, but I’d also add that Russia’s cultural right and left are essentially just the right wing by U.S. or European standards.

snowpid 5mo ago
I didnt know that communist are consired right wing now.
- ndsipa_pomu 5mo ago
  You may be confusing the Soviet Union (disbanded in 1991) with Russia. The Soviet Union (USSR) was communist, but Russia existed before and after the Soviet Union. Russia was a monarchy before 1917 and became a semi-presidential republic (under Putin) after the fall of the Soviet Union. I would also describe modern Russia as an oligarchy and certainly seems to be far-right in terms of politics.

spwa4 5mo ago

They used to though. Russian money was destined exclusively for the far-left before 2015 or so.

TalkingCodeMonk 5mo ago
There is credible evidence that Trump — that bastion of the far-left — has been a Russian asset since the 1980's...
- spwa4 5mo ago
  Yes. Trump is a New Yorker. What do you think his party was when growing up? By the way, he has swapped political parties like he probably showers: every few years. Trump has been a democrat, registered, donor, everything you want, multiple times.
  - TalkingCodeMonk 4mo ago
    > What do you think his party was when growing up? This is indicative of Americas mental illness epidemic. You believe the neoliberal pro-corporate oligarchy party, that hasn't had a leftist president since Carter, is "the left"... without even a hint of irony. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
pjc50 5mo ago
[citation needed] - I thought there was significant proven bribery across the German political spectrum?
- spwa4 5mo ago
  Only in one sense. You get Russian money if you're extreme. Left, right, muslim extremist, anarchist, ... doesn't matter. As long as you're willing to sabotage Germany. But the CDU (and even Die Linke for that matter, everyone vaguely "normal") has to get it's Russian bribes the old fashioned way: with large industrial projects. No freebies.
wolvoleo 5mo ago
Yes that's where the phenomenon of tankies came from (at least the ones of modern times)