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Look, we're having a good time on Firefox since November 9, 2004. Come join us!
by chinathrow 4mo ago
Look, we're having a good time on Firefox since November 9, 2004. Come join us!
- perks_12 4mo agoWas that the year they fired the Rust team to focus on paying their executives?
- 28304283409234 4mo agoLet's not exchange crap behaviour. I think google would win hands down. Firefox at least has adblocking.
- Freak_NL 4mo agoThe classic 'those guys did something bad, so I am going to go with the guys who are absolute assholes doing several orders of magnitude more bad things now instead' response. That usually means that whoever utters it was just looking for a sycophantic excuse to go with the bigger threat because it is more convenient to them (for now).
- pjc50 4mo agoIt's remarkable how often this happens, isn't it? One incident of someone not living up to standards is suddenly an opportunity to abandon standards and go with known bad actors. It's like people giving up on the MSM and immediately latching onto propaganda Youtubers instead.
- dualvariable 4mo agoPeople latch onto consistency and hypocrisy as their filters. The problem is that anyone trying to actually be better is usually inconsistent and hypocritical at some level as in that "you criticize society, yet you participate in it" comic. If you attempt to filter out all traces of hypocrisy from your trusted sources, you wind up listening to the absolute worst people. The people trying to do better are usually the ones struggling with conflicts and inconsistencies.
- olyjohn 4mo agoLet's be real. People love their shiny big brands, and will find any tiny excuse to keep using them.
- account42 4mo agoNot at all. Firefox is a trap to keep motivated people from banding together to create a real user-respecting alternative.
- throwaway81523 4mo agoMaybe "wicked problem" is the new tech buzzword, but browsers certainly are one, and Mozilla messed it up. I blame Mitchell Baker for a big chunk. We don't need a new browser though. We need a new web. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_problem
- inigyou 4mo agoOther way around isn't it? Google are the worst assholes for the time being so many as well go with the less bad assholes?
- charcircuit 4mo agoNo it doesn't. Unlike Brave, Firefox needs an extension to block ads just like Chrome.
- emaro 4mo agoYes, though it has the most powerful and customizable adblocker available.
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- lostmsu 4mo agoSupport Servo btw: https://opencollective.com/servo https://opencollective.com/servo I do
- tpm 4mo agoor even since 2002 when it started as Phoenix https://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_releasenotes/en-us/firefox/releases/0.1 https://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_...
- ricardonunez 4mo agoI used to have Phoenix in a zip disk to use it every time I will go to my college computer lab. Good times.
- mbmbn 4mo agoThen again, our laptop battery only lasts 1/3 as much on MacOS. I know, I know. The community keeps pretending this isn’t an issue for the last, hum, 15 years? But it is, and for people that are looking for a tool and not for a statement, it quickly drives them away from Firefox back to Chrome browsers.
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- elAhmo 4mo agoAnything to back those claims up? I use Firefox and didn't really notice this (although I am rarely on battery), and other than Google Meet making my machine throttle (and I blame that on Google not on Mozilla), I don't use Chrome for anything else for my browsing.
- HelloMcFly 4mo agoI've used Firefox across devices, across the years. This just isn't my experience, at all, remotely. And I have had to use Chrome (now it is Edge) for many work functions, so I do have the A/B comparisons. I'm not doubting your experience, fine, but I also know I'm not "pretending" anything in my own experience.
- ChoGGi 4mo agoFirefox on Android 16, it sucks the battery up in background mode (even with permission to use background turned off). If I manually close it no issue.
- HelloMcFly 4mo agoI believe you. I also do not, and have never, experienced this. I've been using Pixel phones since the 3a in 2019/2020.
- tpm 4mo agodoesn't happen in my case (OnePlus 15/Android 16, Firefox background usage allowed in some "smart" mode whatever that means, doesn't suck the battery in background although it's on most of the time).
- eviks 4mo agoRight after they reach at least ~80% of customization Vivaldi offers!
- qmmmur 4mo agoThis isn't the gotcha you think it is. Every time I try Vivaldi I am right back at Firefox and I am surely not alone. I have never understood the obsession with tree style tabs or vertical tabs. I don't need to customise my browser at all and I like supporting engine diversity.
- eviks 4mo ago[flagged]
- Markoff 4mo agowent from Firefox to Vivaldi, never looked back for many years on Android phone tried many, most recently was using Kiwi Browser, then for some time Firefox until they fucked up UI, so moved to Cromite, though my phone broke (never buy Google Pixel again, first broken phone after 15 years with smartphones and various brands including very low budget), so now I am on my old phone which for some reason doesn't support Cromite, so I am back at Firefox temporarily
- nchmy 4mo agoWhy not Vivaldi on android as well, and benefit from sync etc? That's what I've been doing for about 8 months now. Generally quite happy.
- Markoff 4mo agono extensions, cant live without uBlock Origin and few others
- dubious2 4mo agoI use cromite also.Your old phone may work with version 138.0.7204.184 I believe uptown app store offers that version.
- prmph 4mo agoFirefox and Firefox-derivative browsers have and continue to be seriously sluggish and memory and energy hogs. This should not be swept under the rug. Even today it is difficult for me to use Firefox, Mullvad, etc. When I used to use them, almost every time my machine became slow the solution was to kill Firefox. EDIT: It's true folks, I would love to be able to use Firefox as my primary browser. But all my experience with it (and I used it for more than a decade) has been dogged by its sluggishness.
- alphabeta3r56 4mo agoFirefox is only sluggish because Chrome uses your data to prefetch pages.
- prmph 4mo agoThis does not make sense. Firefox would be taking minutes to open a page that Chrome opens within a second or two. And if Chrome was doing aggressive pre-fetching, then it should be using more memory, no? And yet the opposite is the case.
- bluebarbet 4mo agoNot denying your experience but if it is taking "minutes" then that sounds like a highly specific glitch that you should try to debug. Speaking personally I have used Firefox pretty much exclusively for 20+ years, always on low-end hardware. It's been years since I last had any performance issues.
- kllrnohj 4mo agoI use Firefox mobile pretty much exclusively. I haven't noticed any meaningful performance difference between it & Chrome. It also seems to perform fine on my Fedora laptop.
- prmph 4mo agoMobile is different. I rarely even use mobile. I do however use a lot of tabs on desktop, and Firefox is found very wanting in the performance department. I don't even think its about number of tabs. Just yesterday and today, Mullvad browser takes minutes to load a set of about 7 pinned tabs (with no other tabs) on startup, whereas Helium (which is based on Chromium) loads in a second or two close to a hundred tabs.
- Telemakhos 4mo agoI never went back to Firefox after they killed the Pimpzilla theme.
- eps 4mo agoConventionally, jokes not terminated with smileys aren't accepted on HN.
- Telemakhos 4mo agoIt's not a joke. The Pimpzilla theme stopped working due to changes that Mozilla made to Firefox's layout system, and I dropped Firefox for Safari. Never went back.
- RobotToaster 4mo agoFirefox did similar 10 years ago when they discontinued XPCOM and XUL
- Animats 4mo agoMy Ad Limiter add-on is down to 19 users on Firefox. Used to be thousands. It won't work on Chrome at all now. I'm shutting down SiteTruth, after almost 20 years.[1] [1] https://www.sitetruth.com https://www.sitetruth.com
- eps 4mo agoFwiw, I've been using Firefox for 20+ years, I hate ads with passion and yet I never heard of your add-on until just now. I don't remember what I've used before uBlock Origin, but since its appearance it's basically solved the ad blocking on Firefox and became the de-facto standard for the browser. You probably lost all your users to it, rather that they all stopped using FF.
- Sohcahtoa82 4mo ago> I don't remember what I've used before uBlock Origin Most likely AdBlock Plus. It was basically the standard until they started allowing advertisers to pay to not have their ads blocked.
- KetoManx64 4mo agoI hate to be the guy to say this, but uBlockOrigin outcompeted you half a decade ago. It's the first extension Install on a fresh install and I have never heard of your extension or site.
- Animats 4mo agoIt was never intended to be a volume product. It was a demo of a system which fetched background info about companies. I'd hoped to license it to a search company. Then Google turned to the dark side and Yahoo gave up.
- mmooss 4mo agoThat's the first I've heard of it - I would have been using it! Still, thanks for contributing something good to the community.
- stronglikedan 4mo agoI use both daily and Chrome is still faster and more intuitive, which is unfortunate because I'd really like to degoogle.
- thisislife2 4mo agoUse Un-googled Chromium - https://ungoogled-software.github.io/about/ https://ungoogled-software.github.io/about/ ... it's Chrome without the Google crap.
- make3 4mo agoWill ublock work with this?
- thisislife2 4mo agoLast I remember, they were contemplating retaining MV2 too in future releases so that uBlock (and other extensions don't lose functionality) - https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium/issues/662 https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium/iss... ...