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Fable is 2x latest Opus: ┌─────────────────┬──────────────┬───────────────┬────────────────────┬──────────────────────┐ │ Model │ Input ($/MTo

Fable is 2x latest Opus: ┌─────────────────┬──────────────┬───────────────┬────────────────────┬──────────────────────┐ │ Model │ Input ($/MTok)│ Output ($/MTok)│ Batch Input (−50%) │ Batch Output (−50%)│ ├─────────────────┼──────────────┼───────────────┼────────────────────┼──────────────────────┤ │ Haiku 4.5 │ $1.00 │ $5.00 │ $0.50 │ $2.50 │ │ Sonnet 4.6 │ $3.00 │ $15.00 │ $1.50 │ $7.50 │ │ Opus 4.7 │ $5.00 │ $25.00 │ $2.50 │ $12.50 │ │ Opus 4.8 │ $5.00 │ $25.00 │ $2.50 │ $12.50 │ │ Fable 5 │ $10.00 │ $50.00 │ $5.00 │ $25.00 │ └─────────────────┴──────────────┴───────────────┴────────────────────┴──────────────────────┘ Prompt caching: −90% on input tokens (all models) US-only inference (Fable 5): +10% on input and output Output is always 5× the input rate across all models (I have not idea how to format this properly but the ASCII is fine)

dang 4mo ago
(I fixed (er, literally!) the formatting of your table there. I hope that's ok. Formatting info, such as it is, at https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc)
- consumer451 4mo ago
  Hi Dan, you know how sometimes comments get moved elsewhere? This is a huge ask, but any way we could get the comments organized in a "experience with model" vs. "meta commentary" fashion? The meta is overwhelming in this one.
  - dang 4mo ago
    We try to do that informally but of course the quantity is overwhelming. It's a natural place to experiment with AI classifiers, and we'll eventually get round to that. So far, the top half of this thread seems to be about the current release - that's after some of the manual moderation I just mentioned. (Basically, we try to downweight generic subthreads until the top subthreads aren't generic any more. There's certainly a place for generic tangents in curious conversation, but they should be lower on the page, and tend to get upvoted a lot higher than that.) If you (or anyone) sees a counterexample, i.e. a generic subthread in the top half of the thread, it would be interesting to see a link - we can treat the current case as a datapoint.
    - consumer451 4mo ago
      Thank you for the reply, and the work. As a protentional counterpoint to my request, this is just perfect: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48468156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48468156
pmxi 4mo ago
I had Claude straighten it out: Model In Out BIn BOut Haiku 4.5 $ 1.00 $ 5.00 $0.50 $ 2.50 Sonnet 4.6 $ 3.00 $15.00 $1.50 $ 7.50 Opus 4.7 $ 5.00 $25.00 $2.50 $12.50 Opus 4.8 $ 5.00 $25.00 $2.50 $12.50 Fable 5 $10.00 $50.00 $5.00 $25.00

dang 4mo ago

(I fixed (er, literally!) the formatting of your table there. I hope that's ok. Formatting info, such as it is, at https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc)

consumer451 4mo ago
Hi Dan, you know how sometimes comments get moved elsewhere? This is a huge ask, but any way we could get the comments organized in a "experience with model" vs. "meta commentary" fashion? The meta is overwhelming in this one.
- dang 4mo ago
  We try to do that informally but of course the quantity is overwhelming. It's a natural place to experiment with AI classifiers, and we'll eventually get round to that. So far, the top half of this thread seems to be about the current release - that's after some of the manual moderation I just mentioned. (Basically, we try to downweight generic subthreads until the top subthreads aren't generic any more. There's certainly a place for generic tangents in curious conversation, but they should be lower on the page, and tend to get upvoted a lot higher than that.) If you (or anyone) sees a counterexample, i.e. a generic subthread in the top half of the thread, it would be interesting to see a link - we can treat the current case as a datapoint.
  - consumer451 4mo ago
    Thank you for the reply, and the work. As a protentional counterpoint to my request, this is just perfect: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48468156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48468156

pmxi 4mo ago

I had Claude straighten it out: Model In Out BIn BOut Haiku 4.5 $ 1.00 $ 5.00 $0.50 $ 2.50 Sonnet 4.6 $ 3.00 $15.00 $1.50 $ 7.50 Opus 4.7 $ 5.00 $25.00 $2.50 $12.50 Opus 4.8 $ 5.00 $25.00 $2.50 $12.50 Fable 5 $10.00 $50.00 $5.00 $25.00