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Just when the UK thought they had done the biggest self own in history, 'Merica says hold muh beer.

by Zigurd 5mo ago

water-data-dude 5mo ago
America can do anything the UK can do, but bigger and better!
- ako 5mo ago
  Makes me think of Peter Tosh: "Anything you can do, I can do it better, I'm the toughest".
  - bryanrasmussen 5mo ago
    Anything you can do I can do better just makes me think of Annie Oakley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0
- IAmBroom 5mo ago
  And Texas will double down on that claim for themselves. They even disconnected from the (essentially) country-wide power networks, so they could build something Texan... from which several people die every cold snap.
lenerdenator 5mo ago
I still wouldn't put it at the level of Brexit. The US actually has enough weight as an economy to have some bargaining power at trade negotiations. Now, whether the negotiator is working in good faith or not is another matter, but if the US suddenly stopped doing business with an individual country, it would likely cause the other side at least some problems. The UK does not have the weight the US does, and sanctioned itself from all of its largest trading partners in one stroke. If it wants back into the EU (which would likely be the smart thing to do), serious concessions will have to be made. Like, "How much do you really like the pound sterling?" concessions. Also, Reform's gaining steam, so those concessions are unlikely to be given.
- ToucanLoucan 5mo ago
  > I still wouldn't put it at the level of Brexit. Perhaps not yet, but we have at minimum 2 and a half years of the Trump Family Circus to contend with, and they've gotten a lot destroyed in what time they've had so far. And, Trump isn't the real problem. Anti-intellectualism here has hit it's zenith. Fully a third of our country is so propagandized and media-illiterate that they can't really be said to share a reality with the rest of us anymore. I don't know how we can fix this. Talk radio, Fox News, and social media may well have damaged our civil life beyond repair. And they're still doing it.
  - lenerdenator 5mo ago
    Oh, they've got that there too. GB News, TikTok, all the rest.
    - ToucanLoucan 5mo ago
      And largely owned by the same fucking people, to boot. Hey maybe letting like 30 people have as much money as some sovereign nations was a bad idea guys...
  - pstuart 5mo ago
    One can take some hope that Germany recovered from its descent into fascism. But that was in a time where there was no social media and other brainwashing technologies embedded into the population. My hopes are tempered, to say the least.
    - lenerdenator 5mo ago
      They also had 45 years of being split in half with one side being under a totalitarian government, and the other being partially administrated by three other countries with troops stationed there and the threat of thermonuclear war should ever the two sides get in a disagreement. Also, many of the same ills that caused fascism the first time are starting to re-emerge. You can see this in the rise of AfD.
- 5mo ago

Just when the UK thought they had done the biggest self own in history, 'Merica says hold muh beer.

by Zigurd 5mo ago

Just when the UK thought they had done the biggest self own in history, 'Merica says hold muh beer.

water-data-dude 5mo ago

America can do anything the UK can do, but bigger and better!

ako 5mo ago
Makes me think of Peter Tosh: "Anything you can do, I can do it better, I'm the toughest".
- bryanrasmussen 5mo ago
  Anything you can do I can do better just makes me think of Annie Oakley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0
IAmBroom 5mo ago
And Texas will double down on that claim for themselves. They even disconnected from the (essentially) country-wide power networks, so they could build something Texan... from which several people die every cold snap.

lenerdenator 5mo ago

I still wouldn't put it at the level of Brexit. The US actually has enough weight as an economy to have some bargaining power at trade negotiations. Now, whether the negotiator is working in good faith or not is another matter, but if the US suddenly stopped doing business with an individual country, it would likely cause the other side at least some problems. The UK does not have the weight the US does, and sanctioned itself from all of its largest trading partners in one stroke. If it wants back into the EU (which would likely be the smart thing to do), serious concessions will have to be made. Like, "How much do you really like the pound sterling?" concessions. Also, Reform's gaining steam, so those concessions are unlikely to be given.

ToucanLoucan 5mo ago
> I still wouldn't put it at the level of Brexit. Perhaps not yet, but we have at minimum 2 and a half years of the Trump Family Circus to contend with, and they've gotten a lot destroyed in what time they've had so far. And, Trump isn't the real problem. Anti-intellectualism here has hit it's zenith. Fully a third of our country is so propagandized and media-illiterate that they can't really be said to share a reality with the rest of us anymore. I don't know how we can fix this. Talk radio, Fox News, and social media may well have damaged our civil life beyond repair. And they're still doing it.
- lenerdenator 5mo ago
  Oh, they've got that there too. GB News, TikTok, all the rest.
  - ToucanLoucan 5mo ago
    And largely owned by the same fucking people, to boot. Hey maybe letting like 30 people have as much money as some sovereign nations was a bad idea guys...
- pstuart 5mo ago
  One can take some hope that Germany recovered from its descent into fascism. But that was in a time where there was no social media and other brainwashing technologies embedded into the population. My hopes are tempered, to say the least.
  - lenerdenator 5mo ago
    They also had 45 years of being split in half with one side being under a totalitarian government, and the other being partially administrated by three other countries with troops stationed there and the threat of thermonuclear war should ever the two sides get in a disagreement. Also, many of the same ills that caused fascism the first time are starting to re-emerge. You can see this in the rise of AfD.
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