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Here's the link to submit a comment to the FCC: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/express https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/express Ran a quick search and found

Here's the link to submit a comment to the FCC: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/express https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/express Ran a quick search and found a whole bunch of news articles, but nobody includes info that makes it easy to route your comment. Feels like the beginning of Hitchhiker's Guide: > It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.

Hnrobert42 4mo ago
I think the filing number is 17-59.
user3939382 4mo ago
Open to the possibility that I’m just cynical but my faith is very low that these comment processes are anything more than a regulatory requirement for the illusion of due diligence which legitimizes the actual corporate lobbying and security state actually making the policy.
- mothballed 4mo ago
  I'm nearly certain commenting, at least from my monitoring of commenting on ATF rulemaking, achieves the opposite of what the commenters hope. While there is ~zero chance that commenting can help you, it absolutely is used against you as their lawyers sharpen their claws by crowdsourcing possible sources of challenge and use your comments to predict them and determine how to undermine such positions.
  - Hnrobert42 4mo ago
    I'm pretty sure they don't need comments on the federal site for that. They could get the same from reddit or here for that matter.
- pickleglitch 4mo ago
  They require your name and address, so they will have a nice database of anyone who dares voice an objection.
  - Hnrobert42 4mo ago
    Do you have any examples of the government exploiting that?
    - tartoran 4mo ago
      Do you have any examples of the government NOT exploiting that? It's hard to know for sure how data is being used or sold out for others to exploit it.
- JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
  You’re wrong. Even if the regulator ignores them, they allow third parties to bring a suit under the APA.
- Scaled 4mo ago
  It lets politicians see how unpopular something is and how many votes they will lose.
- firefax 4mo ago
  The real issue is that it's a perpetual problem -- there are NGOs that literally pull out the same one pager, an endless dance of having some 1L repeat the same points over and over and over. (Why is it called a 1 pager you ask? Because your elected officials won't read more than that.) I made a grand total of one hill visit. I told them I'm tired of repeating the same things over and over, and if you make my interns come back here ever again, I'll see to it if you're lucky you only lose your seat, not face a mob outside your window, and when that happens lose my fucking number because I'll be sitting by the TV with popcorn. Exactly that happened, a few years later. Whether you're a public interest lobbyist or just another activist, we need to be more willing to TELL congress things. Not ask. Not lobby. TELL THEM. We need to remind them that the Soviets raced to Berlin to seize brains like ours, that we will flourish whatever regime is in power, and that you can ignore us at your but we, the hackers, will no longer grovel before narcistic neurotypicals to stop misunderstanding on purpose. Politics is like poker -- soft play is unethical. Play to win. Because the pushback works, for a spell.
  - firefax 4mo ago
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- autoexec 4mo ago
  Exactly. Often they're not even real https://www.kcra.com/article/more-sacramento-victims-discovered-in-fcc-fake-comments-scam/14445643 https://www.kcra.com/article/more-sacramento-victims-discove... The companies paid to flood the FCC with fake comments get to do it as long as they're willing to give the government a cut of the action (https://www.engadget.com/new-york-ag-fines-companies-that-spammed-fcc-with-fake-anti-net-neutrality-comments-152249081.html https://www.engadget.com/new-york-ag-fines-companies-that-sp...) It'll only stop when the people hiring those companies to spam the FCC end up behind bars.
mcmcmc 4mo ago
This is the specific proposed rule to reference: https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-seeks-comment-enhanced-know-your-customer-requirements https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-seeks-comment-enhanced-know...
- Ajedi32 4mo ago
  What I find most concerning is that this isn't a bill or law. Unelected government officials at the FCC can apparently just decide to do this.
  - IAmBroom 4mo ago
    Yes, that is the way federal agencies work. Details of complex systems are decided by (hopefully apolitical, public-good-oriented) specialists in the field of interest. One alternative is that Trump can do it at will. Or, to add a few more steps, Trump can fire the FCC head at will, replace him with a lackey, and then do it at will.
    - Ajedi32 4mo ago
      > [Laws] are decided by (hopefully apolitical, public-good-oriented) specialists in the field of interest This doesn't sound to me at all like how a democratic country is supposed to function. It feels like you're describing China rather than the US. > Trump can do it at will. Which is also not how our constitution is supposed to work. The executive branch (which includes both the president and his appointees) is not supposed to be able to make laws, only execute on existing law. Yes, I know this is how the system works these days. I'm just lamenting how it went so wrong...
      - mothballed 4mo ago
        The intellectual-academic class are having an existential crisis that they've lost the reigns of the unelected bureaucratic apparatus and it is now being wielded against them. They are still confused at how to respond to this as they're certain they couldn't have been wrong about deferring (uh, 'delegate regulatory authority') the power vested in congress and elected representation to themselves. Surprise pikachu when it turns out the "apolitical, public goal oriented specialists' were useful idiots in the process of handing power from congress to the executive. If you thought the political apparatus was willingly going to leave the reigns to "apolitical specialists" rather than ruthlessly consolidating it toward the hands of the most power hungry self-dealing monsters that can command the executive branch then obviously you have not been living in in reality. Of course by the time the blindfold has been removed, the power is already largely consolidated.
kogasa240p 4mo ago
Thank you
Scaled 4mo ago
You can also file a comment at the Federal Register for the next 16 days -- It looks like the proposal is 2026-10407 https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/26/2026-10407/enhancing-know-your-customer-requirements https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/26/2026-10...

Hnrobert42 4mo ago

I think the filing number is 17-59.

user3939382 4mo ago

Open to the possibility that I’m just cynical but my faith is very low that these comment processes are anything more than a regulatory requirement for the illusion of due diligence which legitimizes the actual corporate lobbying and security state actually making the policy.

mothballed 4mo ago
I'm nearly certain commenting, at least from my monitoring of commenting on ATF rulemaking, achieves the opposite of what the commenters hope. While there is ~zero chance that commenting can help you, it absolutely is used against you as their lawyers sharpen their claws by crowdsourcing possible sources of challenge and use your comments to predict them and determine how to undermine such positions.
- Hnrobert42 4mo ago
  I'm pretty sure they don't need comments on the federal site for that. They could get the same from reddit or here for that matter.
pickleglitch 4mo ago
They require your name and address, so they will have a nice database of anyone who dares voice an objection.
- Hnrobert42 4mo ago
  Do you have any examples of the government exploiting that?
  - tartoran 4mo ago
    Do you have any examples of the government NOT exploiting that? It's hard to know for sure how data is being used or sold out for others to exploit it.
JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
You’re wrong. Even if the regulator ignores them, they allow third parties to bring a suit under the APA.
Scaled 4mo ago
It lets politicians see how unpopular something is and how many votes they will lose.
firefax 4mo ago
The real issue is that it's a perpetual problem -- there are NGOs that literally pull out the same one pager, an endless dance of having some 1L repeat the same points over and over and over. (Why is it called a 1 pager you ask? Because your elected officials won't read more than that.) I made a grand total of one hill visit. I told them I'm tired of repeating the same things over and over, and if you make my interns come back here ever again, I'll see to it if you're lucky you only lose your seat, not face a mob outside your window, and when that happens lose my fucking number because I'll be sitting by the TV with popcorn. Exactly that happened, a few years later. Whether you're a public interest lobbyist or just another activist, we need to be more willing to TELL congress things. Not ask. Not lobby. TELL THEM. We need to remind them that the Soviets raced to Berlin to seize brains like ours, that we will flourish whatever regime is in power, and that you can ignore us at your but we, the hackers, will no longer grovel before narcistic neurotypicals to stop misunderstanding on purpose. Politics is like poker -- soft play is unethical. Play to win. Because the pushback works, for a spell.
- firefax 4mo ago
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  - firefax 4mo ago
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autoexec 4mo ago
Exactly. Often they're not even real https://www.kcra.com/article/more-sacramento-victims-discovered-in-fcc-fake-comments-scam/14445643 https://www.kcra.com/article/more-sacramento-victims-discove... The companies paid to flood the FCC with fake comments get to do it as long as they're willing to give the government a cut of the action (https://www.engadget.com/new-york-ag-fines-companies-that-spammed-fcc-with-fake-anti-net-neutrality-comments-152249081.html https://www.engadget.com/new-york-ag-fines-companies-that-sp...) It'll only stop when the people hiring those companies to spam the FCC end up behind bars.

mcmcmc 4mo ago

This is the specific proposed rule to reference: https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-seeks-comment-enhanced-know-your-customer-requirements https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-seeks-comment-enhanced-know...

Ajedi32 4mo ago
What I find most concerning is that this isn't a bill or law. Unelected government officials at the FCC can apparently just decide to do this.
- IAmBroom 4mo ago
  Yes, that is the way federal agencies work. Details of complex systems are decided by (hopefully apolitical, public-good-oriented) specialists in the field of interest. One alternative is that Trump can do it at will. Or, to add a few more steps, Trump can fire the FCC head at will, replace him with a lackey, and then do it at will.
  - Ajedi32 4mo ago
    > [Laws] are decided by (hopefully apolitical, public-good-oriented) specialists in the field of interest This doesn't sound to me at all like how a democratic country is supposed to function. It feels like you're describing China rather than the US. > Trump can do it at will. Which is also not how our constitution is supposed to work. The executive branch (which includes both the president and his appointees) is not supposed to be able to make laws, only execute on existing law. Yes, I know this is how the system works these days. I'm just lamenting how it went so wrong...
    - mothballed 4mo ago
      The intellectual-academic class are having an existential crisis that they've lost the reigns of the unelected bureaucratic apparatus and it is now being wielded against them. They are still confused at how to respond to this as they're certain they couldn't have been wrong about deferring (uh, 'delegate regulatory authority') the power vested in congress and elected representation to themselves. Surprise pikachu when it turns out the "apolitical, public goal oriented specialists' were useful idiots in the process of handing power from congress to the executive. If you thought the political apparatus was willingly going to leave the reigns to "apolitical specialists" rather than ruthlessly consolidating it toward the hands of the most power hungry self-dealing monsters that can command the executive branch then obviously you have not been living in in reality. Of course by the time the blindfold has been removed, the power is already largely consolidated.

kogasa240p 4mo ago

Thank you

Scaled 4mo ago

You can also file a comment at the Federal Register for the next 16 days -- It looks like the proposal is 2026-10407 https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/26/2026-10407/enhancing-know-your-customer-requirements https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/26/2026-10...