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Compilers are deterministic and they actually possess domain knowledge of what they are trying to do. AI models are non-deterministic, have no real domain knowl

Compilers are deterministic and they actually possess domain knowledge of what they are trying to do. AI models are non-deterministic, have no real domain knowledge due to lack of an underlying world model, and their way of "writing" software is to spew out something that looks like something that they have been trained on, then iterate on it long enough until it has reached the level of being barely runnable.

gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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- sumeno 4mo ago
  I don't think you know what deterministic means
  - gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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  - LearnYouALisp 4mo ago
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    - andersonpico 4mo ago
      Nah man that's not it
    - gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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    - dang 4mo ago
      It's not ok to post slurs to HN and we ban accounts that do it, so please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20slur&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
      - LearnYouALisp 4mo ago
        Has nothing to do with that. If someone is looking for something, they can find it anywhere. If you want to say "prevalent in [place name]... etc" The emphasis is on the tech culture. The factors are multiple. Parallel: Do you know about chauvinism, etc.?
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      - gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
        Agreed. There's no place for racist slurs on HN, especially when they're posted from behind anonymous usernames. It's often the kind of thing people wouldn't dare say under their real name if their livelihood depended on it ;)
- habinero 4mo ago
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    - habinero 4mo ago
      Bet. Link it lol.
      - gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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        tomhow 4mo ago
        We've banned this account for posting a spate of abusive comments in recent days. You've been here long enough to know this is unacceptable, and when users act like this we have to assume they want to be banned. If you don't want to be banned, you can email us (hn@ycombinator.com) and commit to observing the guidelines in future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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      - habinero 4mo ago
        Yeah, that's what I thought lol
wgd 4mo ago
People say "determinism" but I don't think that's actually the property we care about. For instance you could imagine a compiler that makes heavy use of superoptimization with random search and it would still have the ineffable quality that LLM codegen lacks. I think what we're actually trying to say is that the compiler preserves the formal semantics of the source language in its output, whereas English text doesn't have any such formal semantics to preserve.

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sumeno 4mo ago
I don't think you know what deterministic means
- gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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- LearnYouALisp 4mo ago
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  - andersonpico 4mo ago
    Nah man that's not it
  - gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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  - dang 4mo ago
    It's not ok to post slurs to HN and we ban accounts that do it, so please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20slur&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
    - LearnYouALisp 4mo ago
      Has nothing to do with that. If someone is looking for something, they can find it anywhere. If you want to say "prevalent in [place name]... etc" The emphasis is on the tech culture. The factors are multiple. Parallel: Do you know about chauvinism, etc.?
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    - gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
      Agreed. There's no place for racist slurs on HN, especially when they're posted from behind anonymous usernames. It's often the kind of thing people wouldn't dare say under their real name if their livelihood depended on it ;)
habinero 4mo ago
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- gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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  - habinero 4mo ago
    Bet. Link it lol.
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      - tomhow 4mo ago
        We've banned this account for posting a spate of abusive comments in recent days. You've been here long enough to know this is unacceptable, and when users act like this we have to assume they want to be banned. If you don't want to be banned, you can email us (hn@ycombinator.com) and commit to observing the guidelines in future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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  - gyanchawdhary 4mo ago
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    - habinero 4mo ago
      Yeah, that's what I thought lol

wgd 4mo ago

People say "determinism" but I don't think that's actually the property we care about. For instance you could imagine a compiler that makes heavy use of superoptimization with random search and it would still have the ineffable quality that LLM codegen lacks. I think what we're actually trying to say is that the compiler preserves the formal semantics of the source language in its output, whereas English text doesn't have any such formal semantics to preserve.