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Tech issues don't exist in a vacuum; the idea that tech--a thing we use to enhance our lives, in a discussion literally about doing that--can only be considered

Tech issues don't exist in a vacuum; the idea that tech--a thing we use to enhance our lives, in a discussion literally about doing that--can only be considered from a purely mechanical standpoint is a thought-terminating cliché at this point. Considering the uses and impact of tech is part of talking about it; you can't limit discussion just to the wires.

macintux 5mo ago
> It's a use-case that is either inefficient or inhuman, and I find it really odd that it's one that you value. You could have simply asked without denigrating the commenter.
- Planktonne 5mo ago
  I don't read my comment as denigrating; discussions will naturally involve disagreements. I do think that the sententious tone-policing of yours and other comments is injurious to discussion.
  - abustamam 5mo ago
    There's a difference between a simple disagreement and a judgment on a person's use of technology based on a rather mundane task. > That's even weirder though, because you're taking what should be a moment of connection/care and trying to automate it. "weirder" has a pretty negative connotation, hard not to see its usage as denigrating. "what should be a moment or connection" is an assumption on what the moment actually is. All OP mentioned is that they want to turn off one light in one bedroom. Your comment invented a narrative about what that must mean and then made statements on the narrative that exists only in your mind. I don't think anyone is trying to "tone-police" you I think people just disagree with your take.
    - Planktonne 5mo ago
      You're literally focused on tone, critiquing connotations rather than substance. It's difficult to have a discussion if a bunch of unrelated people jump in not to add but to quibble about phrasing. If you don't want to discuss anything, just don't involve yourself.
      - abustamam 5mo ago
        Words matter. You can't use words and then complain when people call you out on your usage of words.

macintux 5mo ago

> It's a use-case that is either inefficient or inhuman, and I find it really odd that it's one that you value. You could have simply asked without denigrating the commenter.

Planktonne 5mo ago
I don't read my comment as denigrating; discussions will naturally involve disagreements. I do think that the sententious tone-policing of yours and other comments is injurious to discussion.
- abustamam 5mo ago
  There's a difference between a simple disagreement and a judgment on a person's use of technology based on a rather mundane task. > That's even weirder though, because you're taking what should be a moment of connection/care and trying to automate it. "weirder" has a pretty negative connotation, hard not to see its usage as denigrating. "what should be a moment or connection" is an assumption on what the moment actually is. All OP mentioned is that they want to turn off one light in one bedroom. Your comment invented a narrative about what that must mean and then made statements on the narrative that exists only in your mind. I don't think anyone is trying to "tone-police" you I think people just disagree with your take.
  - Planktonne 5mo ago
    You're literally focused on tone, critiquing connotations rather than substance. It's difficult to have a discussion if a bunch of unrelated people jump in not to add but to quibble about phrasing. If you don't want to discuss anything, just don't involve yourself.
    - abustamam 5mo ago
      Words matter. You can't use words and then complain when people call you out on your usage of words.