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That's just another reminder that no one from outside of US should deal with US companies.

bigfishrunning 4mo ago
Of course not! just find viable alternatives to Microsoft, Apple, Mozilla, YCombinator, Google, Intel, AMD, ... In all seriousness, as an American I'd love to see a healthier, more well-distributed tech industry, but I don't see many companies stepping up to provide competing services. It's my understanding that china has alternatives to many of these products/services, but I really don't see how anyone in Europe could possibly use a US-free internet.
- Galanwe 4mo ago
  > but I don't see many companies stepping up to provide competing services Maybe because the US dropped most of its anti trust regulations, leading to ridiculously monopolistic practices such as "acquire everything that may be threatening".
  - bigfishrunning 4mo ago
    When was the last time you heard about a European cellphone manufacturer, or social media network, or web browser being acquired by an American monopoly? I can only think of Nokia, purchased by microsoft in 2014. Those phones ran windows CE before that even, so you could hardly have avoided the american tech industry. All I'm trying to say is, it's impossible for Europeans to both A) be on the internet and B) avoid the US tech industry.
    - Hundredth0006 4mo ago
      Nokia phones ran mostly on SymbianOS
      - bigfishrunning 4mo ago
        Sorry, I stand corrected
    - trumpdong 4mo ago
      In the EU there is the threat of jail time if a user of your service does something bad and you haven't completed the necessary bureaucracy to be immune to it. This is the opposite of the US. See for example pissmail.
p0w3n3d 4mo ago
that's why the world need to wake up. With the due respect of any political beliefs here, in the course of politics any country can be deemed the US enemy (or any other country's enemy as a matter of fact), so for example firing the 3/4 of the company because we have Claude and ChatGPT (US based) is a major business continuation flaw...

Of course not! just find viable alternatives to Microsoft, Apple, Mozilla, YCombinator, Google, Intel, AMD, ... In all seriousness, as an American I'd love to see a healthier, more well-distributed tech industry, but I don't see many companies stepping up to provide competing services. It's my understanding that china has alternatives to many of these products/services, but I really don't see how anyone in Europe could possibly use a US-free internet.

Galanwe 4mo ago
> but I don't see many companies stepping up to provide competing services Maybe because the US dropped most of its anti trust regulations, leading to ridiculously monopolistic practices such as "acquire everything that may be threatening".
- bigfishrunning 4mo ago
  When was the last time you heard about a European cellphone manufacturer, or social media network, or web browser being acquired by an American monopoly? I can only think of Nokia, purchased by microsoft in 2014. Those phones ran windows CE before that even, so you could hardly have avoided the american tech industry. All I'm trying to say is, it's impossible for Europeans to both A) be on the internet and B) avoid the US tech industry.
  - Hundredth0006 4mo ago
    Nokia phones ran mostly on SymbianOS
    - bigfishrunning 4mo ago
      Sorry, I stand corrected
  - trumpdong 4mo ago
    In the EU there is the threat of jail time if a user of your service does something bad and you haven't completed the necessary bureaucracy to be immune to it. This is the opposite of the US. See for example pissmail.

p0w3n3d 4mo ago

that's why the world need to wake up. With the due respect of any political beliefs here, in the course of politics any country can be deemed the US enemy (or any other country's enemy as a matter of fact), so for example firing the 3/4 of the company because we have Claude and ChatGPT (US based) is a major business continuation flaw...