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Pinning CAHSR jobs program as hyperloop's fault is pretty funny. Maybe he did intend to upset it but since both turned out to be massive boondoggles doesn't see

Pinning CAHSR jobs program as hyperloop's fault is pretty funny. Maybe he did intend to upset it but since both turned out to be massive boondoggles doesn't seem like it worked - they managed to delay it themselves just fine.

SwellJoe 4mo ago
Sure, California is a failed state on a lot of fronts, but Musk literally said he was pushing hyperloop for that reason. https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/editorials/article264451076.html https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/editorials/article26445107... Whether he was the only reason for high speed rail being derailed and delayed isn't really the point. He intentionally worked against mass transit, and lied repeatedly about hyperloop as part of that.
- hparadiz 4mo ago
  > California is a failed state on a lot of fronts Some people really should just rm -rf their boot disk cause I feel dumber for having read their comment.
  - SwellJoe 4mo ago
    The feeling is mutual.
- dilyevsky 4mo ago
  I think you've missed the point - that wasn't the reason at all. In a way he was right too - we'll have fully autonomous buses and private vehicles capable of making the full trip down the I-5 long before they complete even the middle of nowhere section they currently have planned.
  - SwellJoe 4mo ago
    Autonomous buses and private vehicles don't solve any of the problems high speed rail solves.
    - dilyevsky 4mo ago
      They're basically not building anything, and what they are building will be borderline unusable because of the route they chose so the car will be faster, cleaner and more convenient. If you want fast you can take the plane. So unless the problem is "how do we siphon as much tax dollars as possible banana republic-style?" I really can't agree here.
- flomo 4mo ago
  Certainly not a Musk fan, but IMO the real point of hyperloop was more that it's on a route that could be constructed within our lifetimes. (Unlike CAHSR, check their website.) Of course, California knows this because that's where they built Interstate 5.

SwellJoe 4mo ago

Sure, California is a failed state on a lot of fronts, but Musk literally said he was pushing hyperloop for that reason. https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/editorials/article264451076.html https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/editorials/article26445107... Whether he was the only reason for high speed rail being derailed and delayed isn't really the point. He intentionally worked against mass transit, and lied repeatedly about hyperloop as part of that.

hparadiz 4mo ago
> California is a failed state on a lot of fronts Some people really should just rm -rf their boot disk cause I feel dumber for having read their comment.
- SwellJoe 4mo ago
  The feeling is mutual.
dilyevsky 4mo ago
I think you've missed the point - that wasn't the reason at all. In a way he was right too - we'll have fully autonomous buses and private vehicles capable of making the full trip down the I-5 long before they complete even the middle of nowhere section they currently have planned.
- SwellJoe 4mo ago
  Autonomous buses and private vehicles don't solve any of the problems high speed rail solves.
  - dilyevsky 4mo ago
    They're basically not building anything, and what they are building will be borderline unusable because of the route they chose so the car will be faster, cleaner and more convenient. If you want fast you can take the plane. So unless the problem is "how do we siphon as much tax dollars as possible banana republic-style?" I really can't agree here.
flomo 4mo ago
Certainly not a Musk fan, but IMO the real point of hyperloop was more that it's on a route that could be constructed within our lifetimes. (Unlike CAHSR, check their website.) Of course, California knows this because that's where they built Interstate 5.