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First, I think the H1B does need genuine reform to keep the big companies from gaming the lottery system. Having said that, I’m not sure banning H1Bs or immigr

First, I think the H1B does need genuine reform to keep the big companies from gaming the lottery system. Having said that, I’m not sure banning H1Bs or immigrants in general is going to help American workers. Take tech for instance. Many tech leaders are immigrants. If they hasn’t taken in the Jensen Huang’s, Sergei Brin’s, Sundar Pichai, etc… the companies they lead and jobs they created would be elsewhere. It’s amazing how immigrants have shaped the US tech scene: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2026/06/03/immigrants-are-founders-of-most-us-billion-dollar-companies/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2026/06/03/immig... Second, when you ban immigrants/H1B, companies get around the ban by outsourcing to foreign countries. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2017/06/10/if-you-want-less-outsourcing-then-increase-immigration/#7c9509434349 https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2017/06/10/if-yo...

Dig1t 4mo ago
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- BenFranklin100 4mo ago
  “It was built by Americans and regardless would have continued to be built by Americans.” The xenophobic ignorance of this sentence is breathtaking. America, of all places, is a nation built precisely by immigrants.
  - throwaway85825 4mo ago
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    - junofan 4mo ago
      Refugees is maybe more accurate when it comes to country. We sprouted out of the social scene that was displaced by the English Civil War.
      - throwaway85825 4mo ago
        And the wars of religion generally. Eg, the Dutch in Pennsylvania and hugenots.
    - BenFranklin100 4mo ago
      Historically then, unless you are a Native American, you are an immigrant. Perhaps it’s time for to GTFO? Is that the message? Hacker News really resembles a MAGA rally at times
      - throwaway85825 4mo ago
        When the plymouth colony was established the amerindian population was greatly reduced due to disease that swept through <5 years before. The colonists found many empty villages. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5xp7B7ISI1DymhuoGuoN_WWllHiFZ6y- https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5xp7B7ISI1DymhuoGuoN_WWl...
  - Dig1t 4mo ago
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    - BenFranklin100 4mo ago
      “Anyone with common sense understands that the nation of the USA is/was a place with a specific culture and genetic makeup” This is genuinely racist. You are a vile human being. Reported.
      - Dig1t 4mo ago
        I have no hate for anyone. Applying the "phobic" and "racist" labels to things you disagree with is just a way of avoiding engaging with ideas. Most people can see that. If you want to win the argument long term, you need to engage with these ideas and actually provide a decent counterargument. Was the 1965 Hart-Celler immigration act a good thing? Has the country improved the quality of life for its citizens since then? The answer is obviously "no" for anyone who's not a billionaire.
- ToxicMegacolon 4mo ago
  > They raise the cost of housing Oh! how dare they! How can they even think of finding a place to live
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kevin_thibedeau 4mo ago
The 45th president was supposed to deliver that reform. Then they went all out and... commissioned a study. Then they did nothing, once the puppet masters let it be know they didn't want to lose their servile work force chained to their visas with a green card dangled in front of them.

Dig1t 4mo ago

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BenFranklin100 4mo ago
“It was built by Americans and regardless would have continued to be built by Americans.” The xenophobic ignorance of this sentence is breathtaking. America, of all places, is a nation built precisely by immigrants.
- throwaway85825 4mo ago
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  - junofan 4mo ago
    Refugees is maybe more accurate when it comes to country. We sprouted out of the social scene that was displaced by the English Civil War.
    - throwaway85825 4mo ago
      And the wars of religion generally. Eg, the Dutch in Pennsylvania and hugenots.
  - BenFranklin100 4mo ago
    Historically then, unless you are a Native American, you are an immigrant. Perhaps it’s time for to GTFO? Is that the message? Hacker News really resembles a MAGA rally at times
    - throwaway85825 4mo ago
      When the plymouth colony was established the amerindian population was greatly reduced due to disease that swept through <5 years before. The colonists found many empty villages. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5xp7B7ISI1DymhuoGuoN_WWllHiFZ6y- https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5xp7B7ISI1DymhuoGuoN_WWl...
- Dig1t 4mo ago
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  - BenFranklin100 4mo ago
    “Anyone with common sense understands that the nation of the USA is/was a place with a specific culture and genetic makeup” This is genuinely racist. You are a vile human being. Reported.
    - Dig1t 4mo ago
      I have no hate for anyone. Applying the "phobic" and "racist" labels to things you disagree with is just a way of avoiding engaging with ideas. Most people can see that. If you want to win the argument long term, you need to engage with these ideas and actually provide a decent counterargument. Was the 1965 Hart-Celler immigration act a good thing? Has the country improved the quality of life for its citizens since then? The answer is obviously "no" for anyone who's not a billionaire.
ToxicMegacolon 4mo ago
> They raise the cost of housing Oh! how dare they! How can they even think of finding a place to live
- Dig1t 4mo ago
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kevin_thibedeau 4mo ago

The 45th president was supposed to deliver that reform. Then they went all out and... commissioned a study. Then they did nothing, once the puppet masters let it be know they didn't want to lose their servile work force chained to their visas with a green card dangled in front of them.