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Ok, so how to calculate it for switzerland in a non arbitrary way? (Btw. I believe switzerland is not trying to be self sufficient anyway, but donimport lots o
by lukan 5mo ago
Ok, so how to calculate it for switzerland in a non arbitrary way?
(Btw. I believe switzerland is not trying to be self sufficient anyway, but donimport lots of stuff, like most other countries do)
- fractallyte 5mo agoThis is covered in the linked article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrying_capacity#Mathematics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrying_capacity#Mathematics Other variables to factor in would include cultural/esthetic ones: how much would a population tolerate a reduction in the idyllic/scenic nature of their landscape, merely to accommodate crops for a rising population? (This is what I referred to as "quality of life" in another post.)
- lukan 5mo agoThat math is about animals in a fixed climate who don't do trading. Swiss people do. And that "how much would a population tolerate a reduction in the idyllic/scenic nature of their landscape" is a very arbitary factor that will strongly depend on who you ask.
- fractallyte 5mo agoYou're basically reluctant to accept the fact that such a calculation is possible. That says more about you than the competence of mathematicians and ecologists...
- lukan 5mo agoCan you bring one claim of "mathematicians and ecologists" that their calculation would not be arbitrary? Those things ain't absolutes and human society is not made up of numbers and not calculable. So you can make approximations. And they can be useful or not. But you cannot calculate the perfect size of a human society. That is just arbitrary.