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Andrew Tate's Empire of Abuse

44 points by petethomas 4mo ago

naturalmovement 4mo ago
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- OliverM 4mo ago
  This is easily googled, no? It is not a twitter fight.
- monkey_monkey 4mo ago
  Are you incapable of using some kind of search engine to find out?
  - smithoc 4mo ago
    OP was presumably not asking literally because they thought this was the best way to find out, they were doing so rhetorically to point out that Andrew Tate is not a person of any real significance or mainstream notoriety, who has garnered a weird amount of attention from a tiny set of terminally online people. Basically, talking about him should be beneath the New Yorker, and the choice to publish about him drags a weird little pocket of the deep internet into the mainstream, in a way that makes us all worse off.
    - mrjay42 4mo ago
      Yeah I think you're right They're a troll given their reply to my comment a little above this same discussion. I thought they were literally asking for info xD but nope :/
- CookieCrisp 4mo ago
  This would be like someone 40 years ago asking who Donald Trump is. It may not effect you yet but it likely will someday. Ignoring these people does not seem to help them go away
- nancyminusone 4mo ago
  I'm not so good of a judge of these things but I don't think this is thst kind of article.
- daft_pink 4mo ago
  He’s just some idiot who started a self help/motivational educational website called Hustler’s University which had a “PhD program” that controversially explained how to pimp and make money off of girls by having them perform adult content and making tons of $’s while the man collected the revenue. Then proceeded to get accused by different women of rape and human trafficking and has had a long running legal battles and police investigations about it in different countries around the globe.
  - polotics 4mo ago
    "motificational"? Excellent! "motifictional" also "motivafictional" would work , definitely reusing that!
- emmelaich 4mo ago
  Yes, I profoundly dislike the lede "the defining figure of the manosphere" Like, in who's opinion?
- smithkl42 4mo ago
  Consider yourself lucky. He's a beyond-sleazy, probably criminal online influencer, important in what's called the "manosphere". He's made a lot of money exploiting and abusing women and encouraging other people to do so. If the online clips of him bragging about how to manipulate women into doing pornography don't make you want to throw up, you're pretty far gone. Unfortunately, lots of folks are, in fact, pretty far gone.
- mrjay42 4mo ago
  Your duty of care is just as important as you want it to be Tate is an influencer, as such he has influenced millions of young men (probably some women too) all over the world, by spread masculinist ideology, "gymbroism" and misogyny He has multiple cases of crimes and felonies against him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Tate#Criminal_investigations_and_civil_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Tate#Criminal_investiga... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brot... If you have nephews, sons, (younger) brothers, I'd pay attention to their opinion about Tate. Could be a good warning that something's happening. You can also afford not to care ^^
  - naturalmovement 4mo ago
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    - rumori 4mo ago
      Unfortunately a very large part of the population is living their digital life inside closed platforms nowadays and this is getting even worse with younger generations who literally think tiktok and instagram is _the_ internet. On these platforms influencers like Tate can gain popularity extremely quickly if they resonate with your interests, fears, ideology. Tate is/was really popular with men of all ages, representing a mix of hustle mindset, ambition, materialistic goals, working out, mixed in with ponzi scheme like courses on how to make it in today’s world. It gives a simplistic answer to a lot of people, similar to the cults of yesterday.
    - kelseyfrog 4mo ago
      Halfway across the world doesn't have the same meaning in the age of the Internet. In the mean time, their influence has real disruptive consequences in our ordinary lives. See the classroom[1] as an example. 1. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c625yleq8w7o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c625yleq8w7o
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- adampunk 4mo ago
  You didn't bother to read the article or learn about the subject but you feel qualified to put "journalism" in quotes?
- tim333 4mo ago
  >A divisive influencer... third-most googled person in 2023... "king of toxic masculinity"... facing legal investigations in Romania, the United Kingdom, and the United States (wikipedia)
bio-s 4mo ago
https://archive.is/2gj8R https://archive.is/2gj8R

44 points by petethomas 4mo ago

naturalmovement 4mo ago

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OliverM 4mo ago
This is easily googled, no? It is not a twitter fight.
monkey_monkey 4mo ago
Are you incapable of using some kind of search engine to find out?
- smithoc 4mo ago
  OP was presumably not asking literally because they thought this was the best way to find out, they were doing so rhetorically to point out that Andrew Tate is not a person of any real significance or mainstream notoriety, who has garnered a weird amount of attention from a tiny set of terminally online people. Basically, talking about him should be beneath the New Yorker, and the choice to publish about him drags a weird little pocket of the deep internet into the mainstream, in a way that makes us all worse off.
  - mrjay42 4mo ago
    Yeah I think you're right They're a troll given their reply to my comment a little above this same discussion. I thought they were literally asking for info xD but nope :/
CookieCrisp 4mo ago
This would be like someone 40 years ago asking who Donald Trump is. It may not effect you yet but it likely will someday. Ignoring these people does not seem to help them go away
nancyminusone 4mo ago
I'm not so good of a judge of these things but I don't think this is thst kind of article.
daft_pink 4mo ago
He’s just some idiot who started a self help/motivational educational website called Hustler’s University which had a “PhD program” that controversially explained how to pimp and make money off of girls by having them perform adult content and making tons of $’s while the man collected the revenue. Then proceeded to get accused by different women of rape and human trafficking and has had a long running legal battles and police investigations about it in different countries around the globe.
- polotics 4mo ago
  "motificational"? Excellent! "motifictional" also "motivafictional" would work , definitely reusing that!
emmelaich 4mo ago
Yes, I profoundly dislike the lede "the defining figure of the manosphere" Like, in who's opinion?
smithkl42 4mo ago
Consider yourself lucky. He's a beyond-sleazy, probably criminal online influencer, important in what's called the "manosphere". He's made a lot of money exploiting and abusing women and encouraging other people to do so. If the online clips of him bragging about how to manipulate women into doing pornography don't make you want to throw up, you're pretty far gone. Unfortunately, lots of folks are, in fact, pretty far gone.
mrjay42 4mo ago
Your duty of care is just as important as you want it to be Tate is an influencer, as such he has influenced millions of young men (probably some women too) all over the world, by spread masculinist ideology, "gymbroism" and misogyny He has multiple cases of crimes and felonies against him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Tate#Criminal_investigations_and_civil_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Tate#Criminal_investiga... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brot... If you have nephews, sons, (younger) brothers, I'd pay attention to their opinion about Tate. Could be a good warning that something's happening. You can also afford not to care ^^
- naturalmovement 4mo ago
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  - rumori 4mo ago
    Unfortunately a very large part of the population is living their digital life inside closed platforms nowadays and this is getting even worse with younger generations who literally think tiktok and instagram is _the_ internet. On these platforms influencers like Tate can gain popularity extremely quickly if they resonate with your interests, fears, ideology. Tate is/was really popular with men of all ages, representing a mix of hustle mindset, ambition, materialistic goals, working out, mixed in with ponzi scheme like courses on how to make it in today’s world. It gives a simplistic answer to a lot of people, similar to the cults of yesterday.
  - kelseyfrog 4mo ago
    Halfway across the world doesn't have the same meaning in the age of the Internet. In the mean time, their influence has real disruptive consequences in our ordinary lives. See the classroom[1] as an example. 1. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c625yleq8w7o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c625yleq8w7o
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adampunk 4mo ago
You didn't bother to read the article or learn about the subject but you feel qualified to put "journalism" in quotes?
tim333 4mo ago
>A divisive influencer... third-most googled person in 2023... "king of toxic masculinity"... facing legal investigations in Romania, the United Kingdom, and the United States (wikipedia)

bio-s 4mo ago

https://archive.is/2gj8R https://archive.is/2gj8R