> However, this anecdotal evidence says nothing about society as a whole. I didn't bother bringing religion into it because that's a whole 'nother can of worms

> However, this anecdotal evidence says nothing about society as a whole. I didn't bother bringing religion into it because that's a whole 'nother can of worms, but it has such a societal impact on what's deemed "acceptable" if not downright "expected" that we've illegalized the options available for people because of it. I've also read a few AskMeFi's in which husbands and wives have both asked the best course of direction for a babycrazy spouse that wouldn't take no for an answer once they sealed the deal, due either to religious belief or family pressure. Unfun stuff.