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Hopefully this new golden gate update is really the snow leopard everyone's been hoping for.. already exciting one can now (if only partially) disable liquid gl
by WorldPeas 4mo ago
Hopefully this new golden gate update is really the snow leopard everyone's been hoping for.. already exciting one can now (if only partially) disable liquid glass
- chatmasta 4mo agoLiquid Glass is fine for me since I put it in grayscale. I actually like it. I’m just talking about iOS though. Haven’t updated to Liquid (Gl)ass on macOS yet.
- philistine 4mo agoPeople talk about Liquid Glass as if it equal on all fronts. It's absolutely not. Apple knows which way their bread is buttered, that they can't mess up the iPhone. So Liquid Glass is fine on iOS. It's on Mac that it's a garbage fire of ridiculous design decisions. Still the best OS around, but it looks like it was made by idiots.
- chatmasta 4mo agoAlso weird how it’s all or nothing. Feels like it should just be a theme you choose for your OS.
- mostlysimilar 4mo agoThis is really what they need to get back to. Let macOS be themeable again.
- badc0ffee 4mo agoIMO it's not fine on iOS. It has the same visual busyness as on macOS.
- avarun 4mo agoAgreed, but seems like we're the odd ones out. I keep hearing how Liquid Glass is ok on iOS and terrible on macOS, but I actually think it's (slightly) better on macOS than on iOS. At least macOS has configurability to turn off all the transparency. iOS just looks bad no matter how you configure it right now.
- chatmasta 4mo agoTry messing with the settings more. Grayscale (or whatever it’s called) makes the transparency much more tolerable, or even _nice_, than with multi-color. It’s also more palatable on iOS because you only have one window open at a time. Many of the complaints around Liquid Glass on macOS are focused on window management and issues that only occur with multiple windows on screen simultaneously.
- sixothree 4mo agoI really think Mac OS is one of the worst operating systems to begin with. How is liquid glass going to make it worse. I will 100% leave the criticism of liquid glass on Mac OS to others. But Liquid Glass on iOS has been one of my favorite updates. I like the look and feel of it. They made some tangentially related changes that go too far.
- chatmasta 4mo agoLuckily for Apple, their primary competitor has managed to make their OS even worse. Windows becomes more unusable with every update, and on top of that, continues shoving telemetry and advertising into the OS. I installed windows on a laptop as an experiment and was shocked to see ads in the start menu. Who wants that?! The best OS is probably something between Ubuntu and macOS. But nothing beats macOS on default, works out of the box, secure and usable and integrated with ecosystems of daily life.
- sixothree 4mo agoI already agree with you on every single point. But Finder, holy heck is Finder awful. As someone who uses a filesystem as a first-class feature of an operating system, Finder it's one of the most horrible things about Mac OS. I say this as someone who uses and has owned too many Macs, but can just never make them my primary machine. I promise, I've spent the last 30 years trying to make them my main.
- WorldPeas 4mo agothe truth (that most people here would tell you) is that macos may be worse than linux, but it's generally understood, you can install companions for proprietary hardware much more easily and coworkers won't look at you with a blank stare when you explain that you're switching them all to it for mdm purposes (as they would with linux/windows).
- wpm 4mo agoThere is no shot macOS' userspace is worse than even the best, most polished Linux distro.
- sleepybrett 4mo agoYeah it seems like they are finally reconsidering their position of unifying ios and macos somewhat. I wish they would revert settings on the mac back to it's old 'control panel' days.
- WorldPeas 4mo agoI'm in the same camp. I'm glad that I chose now to get my carrier-backed phone update because I wouldn't have been able to endure the keyboard still breaking and apps popping in like the interface is a windows ce skin for very long
- 1-6 4mo agoWhile I may hold an unpopular opinion, I really enjoy using liquid glass. It really makes an information-rich screen seem less cluttered.
- nailer 4mo agoElements underneath glass elements would add clutter
- miladyincontrol 4mo agoI slightly prefer it, its nothing groundbreaking though. I just dont think it's the grand UX sin that some the most vocal critics love to preach.
- thewebguyd 4mo agoI like it on iOS. It missed on macOS, but the new version looks much better. Bringing back the old style sidebar and actual toolbars again was the right choice.
- nozzlegear 4mo agoI agree with you, it looks good on iOS and iPadOS. I'm indifferent toward it on macOS – you hardly ever notice it unless you live in the control center all day (IME anyway).
- yreg 4mo agoI think it looks good (really good in some usecases!), but I don't like the problems it causes. - accessibility (hopefully improved soon) - floating buttons over content that doesnt need to scroll - switching light/dark when scrolling over content with borderline brightness
- whywhywhywhy 4mo agoNeed a Leopard first, we’re firmly in Lion territory currently if we’re talking bad macOS version.