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In which world do you live where employees work 8 hours per day ? They clock 8 hours per day maybe, but they don't work that time
by ttoinou 4mo ago
In which world do you live where employees work 8 hours per day ? They clock 8 hours per day maybe, but they don't work that time
- mettamage 4mo agoI agree with you. I am on Dutch subreddits a lot, to get a local pulse and not to be too HN minded. A lot of them would have vilified you by now. Some even would have even questioned your morality. Again, I agree with you. But clearly not everyone has this view.
- mystifyingpoi 4mo agoGenerally, when people say they are working 8h/day, they don't literally mean it. Even "work" is basically impossible to define for a SWE.
- drob518 4mo agoI had a friend who was CEO of a startup tell me that he typically only “worked” an hour a day, not because he was lazy but just because there was so much nonsense in his schedule. He told me he was trying to get it to two hours per day.
- the_sleaze_ 4mo agoHow successful did he turn out to be? As a CEO your days should be jam packed with brutal "chewing glass and gazing into the abyss". Is he running a lifestyle type company?
- Lalabadie 4mo agoTangential, but all companies are lifestyle companies, in the sense that they serve their owner's lifestyle choices. It's just that lots of owners want a company that pulls them away from all other areas of life.
- croon 4mo agoThis reads like compensation theatrics.
- drob518 4mo agoQuite successful. Tech company.
- ai_slop_hater 4mo agoSome companies force you to actually work 8 hours a day. It’s hell.
- ttoinou 4mo agoWhich country and which companies ?
- formerly_proven 4mo agoE.g. factory work
- ttoinou 4mo agoOh yeah its not the same, we were discussing Agentic AI
- ai_slop_hater 4mo agoI worked at a software company that made screenshot of your screen every minute. I also worked a non-software white collar job where you were expected to work non-stop for 8 hours, except for an unpaid lunch break.
- ttoinou 4mo agoHow did you accept such jobs ? I would never be able to pull this off as an employer
- ai_slop_hater 4mo agoBecause nobody is hiring so if I got an offer I had to accept it.
- razodactyl 4mo agoPeople are still hiring, it's just very competitive - reframe rejection as learning opportunities returning wisdom. In retrospect, many companies you get turned down from are likely companies you don't want to work for anyway hence the incompatibility. It may be hard, but positive mindset will go very far towards enhancing your outcomes - you need to bring others up around you as well. Pause on this and think about the first thing that comes to mind when you respond to these words.
- dakiol 4mo agoIn theory, ofc. But that doesn't matter. If you were doing something that took 2 days in average, but you were doing it in half the time, then that was fine pre LLMs. Nowadays your manager knows that with LLMs you need to deliver faster no matter what, and then it's more difficult to "hide" and to slack.
- ttoinou 4mo agoYeah. So, good things. We ack know that people are mostly slacking at work
- opsnooperfax 4mo agoHere’s my hot take as an elder millennial. Boomers are the absolute worst at being unable to make the distinction between time at work and time doing work. They may show up an hour before everyone else but spend the first two or three hours a day, reading the news and getting coffee and making small talk and accomplishing literally nothing. Then crow about their work ethic.