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DeepSeek V4 Pro is wonderful and ridiculously cheap, but we are sleeping on MiMo V2.5 Pro, which have the same price (and lower cached price), it's multimodal a

by amunozo 4mo ago

DeepSeek V4 Pro is wonderful and ridiculously cheap, but we are sleeping on MiMo V2.5 Pro, which have the same price (and lower cached price), it's multimodal and it's higher up in most benchmarks. Same thing for MiMo V2.5 vs DeepSeek V4 Flash.

smartbit 4mo ago
> MiMo V2.5 Pro ... lower cached price At the moment of writing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48343690 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48343690 MiMo V2.5 Pro had a lower cache hit ratio. From the article: OSS models, depending on who you use them from, make a huge difference, mostly due to cache-hit rates. Model Cheapest effectiveInputPrice (Provider) MiMo-V2.5-Pro 0.3720 (Xiaomi) DeepSeek V4 Pro (Max) 0.0560 (DeepSeek)
- amunozo 4mo ago
  Could it be that it changed recently, or am I missing something? Both prices are the same https://openrouter.ai/compare/xiaomi/mimo-v2.5-pro/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro https://openrouter.ai/compare/xiaomi/mimo-v2.5-pro/deepseek/... EDIT: okay I misread it, does this mean that DeepSeek reuses a higher percentage of tokens at cache price that MiMo, am I right?
  - smartbit 4mo ago
    Correct. According to https://minimaxir.com/2026/05/openrouter-hy3/#llm-economics-in-2026:~:text=That%E2%80%99s%20a%202%25%20cache%20read,a%20calculator%20for%20that%20one%29 https://minimaxir.com/2026/05/openrouter-hy3/#llm-economics-... [0] when served by DeepSeek, Cache Read Costs/Input Costs are a very low percentage: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0.83% DeepSeek V4 Flash 2% Notice that OpenRouter response caching is not available when account-level ZDR is enforced [1] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48317294#48317823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48317294#48317823 [1] https://openrouter.ai/docs/guides/features/response-caching#limitations https://openrouter.ai/docs/guides/features/response-caching#...
esafak 4mo ago
How would you rate mimo against dsv4 pro? What do you work on?

by amunozo 4mo ago

smartbit 4mo ago

> MiMo V2.5 Pro ... lower cached price At the moment of writing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48343690 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48343690 MiMo V2.5 Pro had a lower cache hit ratio. From the article: OSS models, depending on who you use them from, make a huge difference, mostly due to cache-hit rates. Model Cheapest effectiveInputPrice (Provider) MiMo-V2.5-Pro 0.3720 (Xiaomi) DeepSeek V4 Pro (Max) 0.0560 (DeepSeek)

amunozo 4mo ago
Could it be that it changed recently, or am I missing something? Both prices are the same https://openrouter.ai/compare/xiaomi/mimo-v2.5-pro/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro https://openrouter.ai/compare/xiaomi/mimo-v2.5-pro/deepseek/... EDIT: okay I misread it, does this mean that DeepSeek reuses a higher percentage of tokens at cache price that MiMo, am I right?
- smartbit 4mo ago
  Correct. According to https://minimaxir.com/2026/05/openrouter-hy3/#llm-economics-in-2026:~:text=That%E2%80%99s%20a%202%25%20cache%20read,a%20calculator%20for%20that%20one%29 https://minimaxir.com/2026/05/openrouter-hy3/#llm-economics-... [0] when served by DeepSeek, Cache Read Costs/Input Costs are a very low percentage: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0.83% DeepSeek V4 Flash 2% Notice that OpenRouter response caching is not available when account-level ZDR is enforced [1] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48317294#48317823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48317294#48317823 [1] https://openrouter.ai/docs/guides/features/response-caching#limitations https://openrouter.ai/docs/guides/features/response-caching#...

esafak 4mo ago

How would you rate mimo against dsv4 pro? What do you work on?