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I'm still surprised at how many developers still turn their noses up at using Linux. Like... You already use Docker and deploy to K8S... On Linux...

tokioyoyo 4mo ago
That’s very much not the same thing though?
- OsrsNeedsf2P 4mo ago
  It kind of is? Why would you not want your development environment to be as close to your deployment environment as possible? Even MacOS bash commands have hiccups every so often. In my experience working with Linux developers, they seem to know the internals of the servers much better and can optimize/debug prod fast - and this understanding is only compounded with LLMs. I'm sure many developers would be equally talented at debugging such issues if we deployed on Windows or MacOS, but virtually no one does that.
  - madeofpalk 4mo ago
    I do other things on my computer apart from bash.
- giancarlostoro 4mo ago
  Docker was designed for Linux, and on Windows you have to run a VM just to let Docker function.
- preg_match 4mo ago
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9dev 4mo ago
I don’t really care about the OS. I want a beefy laptop with a good keyboard and trackpad, long battery life, and a crisp screen. Preferably very silent, bonus points for a clean design. That’s the value proposition of a MacBook.
- make3 4mo ago
  I also care about my desktop supporting consumer electronics without having to waste an afternoon debugging Bluetooth drivers every two weeks
  - monooso 4mo ago
    Thankfully, it has been many years since I had to debug Bluetooth drivers (or anything of that ilk) on Linux.
- nullpoint420 4mo ago
  I get it. I wish there were more great laptop makers. I had a maxed out 16in M2 Max MacBook Pro, now I have an 15in M3 MBA. I also have a maxed out HP G1A Ultra running Fedora. They’re all excellent.
- kurtis_reed 4mo ago
  There are many laptops with similar specs that you can run Linux on, and for less money
  - 9dev 4mo ago
    Not really. The only thing that comes close IMHO are the top shelf Lenovo X1 Carbon, but even those come with several caveats compared to MacBooks, and the M4/M5 chips are ridiculously powerful. I’m open for suggestions though
    - nullpoint420 4mo ago
      HP G1A Ultra?
greggsy 4mo ago
Desktop and server are two wildly different support surfaces
- nullpoint420 4mo ago
  Fair, but it’s electron. They can just add a new target and recompile the native libraries they’re using for Linux. It’s really not that hard.
kurtis_reed 4mo ago
People buy Apple products for the same reason people buy BMWs
- nullpoint420 4mo ago
  To drive fast?

tokioyoyo 4mo ago

That’s very much not the same thing though?

OsrsNeedsf2P 4mo ago
It kind of is? Why would you not want your development environment to be as close to your deployment environment as possible? Even MacOS bash commands have hiccups every so often. In my experience working with Linux developers, they seem to know the internals of the servers much better and can optimize/debug prod fast - and this understanding is only compounded with LLMs. I'm sure many developers would be equally talented at debugging such issues if we deployed on Windows or MacOS, but virtually no one does that.
- madeofpalk 4mo ago
  I do other things on my computer apart from bash.
giancarlostoro 4mo ago
Docker was designed for Linux, and on Windows you have to run a VM just to let Docker function.
preg_match 4mo ago
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9dev 4mo ago

I don’t really care about the OS. I want a beefy laptop with a good keyboard and trackpad, long battery life, and a crisp screen. Preferably very silent, bonus points for a clean design. That’s the value proposition of a MacBook.

make3 4mo ago
I also care about my desktop supporting consumer electronics without having to waste an afternoon debugging Bluetooth drivers every two weeks
- monooso 4mo ago
  Thankfully, it has been many years since I had to debug Bluetooth drivers (or anything of that ilk) on Linux.
nullpoint420 4mo ago
I get it. I wish there were more great laptop makers. I had a maxed out 16in M2 Max MacBook Pro, now I have an 15in M3 MBA. I also have a maxed out HP G1A Ultra running Fedora. They’re all excellent.
kurtis_reed 4mo ago
There are many laptops with similar specs that you can run Linux on, and for less money
- 9dev 4mo ago
  Not really. The only thing that comes close IMHO are the top shelf Lenovo X1 Carbon, but even those come with several caveats compared to MacBooks, and the M4/M5 chips are ridiculously powerful. I’m open for suggestions though
  - nullpoint420 4mo ago
    HP G1A Ultra?

greggsy 4mo ago

Desktop and server are two wildly different support surfaces

nullpoint420 4mo ago
Fair, but it’s electron. They can just add a new target and recompile the native libraries they’re using for Linux. It’s really not that hard.

kurtis_reed 4mo ago

People buy Apple products for the same reason people buy BMWs

nullpoint420 4mo ago
To drive fast?