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It's so bland and generic its bizarre like somebody is botting it. Weird that all the comments calling this out are getting flagged or downvoted.

raincole 5mo ago
What 'all the comments'? There aren't many comments in this thread. You mean this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48432736 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48432736 ? I flagged it too. I think the flag is quite justified.
- zuzululu 5mo ago
  oh I don't particularly care I'm just asking what is it about this article that is so worthy of being front page? I'm literally just calling out the content. I'm sorry for complaining.
  - jackhalford 5mo ago
    It’s getting attention because the subtext of the article is the zig vs AI ideological battle going on (and zig vs Rust somewhat on the backburner) Recent events AFAIU: - bun (bought by big AI) switching to Rust - zig team banning AI pull requests (because they want to review humans) - The cloud industry buying all coding tooling companies (uv, vite, bun) but zig being unbuyable If anybody from the zig core team is reading this: thank you and carry on the good work.
    - zuzululu 5mo ago
      so im just getting caught up with zig is I have never really paid attention to it so far I'm not really getting zig and I see they banned AI ? seems like that is just going to attract anti-AI user base...not sure if that was a wise decision. also not really sure why anyone would migrate from Rust to Zig, it seems much less mature and unsure of the ROI there.
gghh 5mo ago
It's bland and generic because it's a manifesto. Author (and HN submitter) is Loris Cro, aka @kristoff_it, VP of Community at Zig Software Foundation. In his role, devising as set of general guidelines to use as compass when things (inevitably! and often!) get very very muddy and Right v. Wrong is hard to tell apart -- both objectively, and also from the point of view of being a community leader with ton of vested interest -- is essentially one half of his job. Other half is abide to said guidelines. So @kristoff_it last week sat down, came up with three simple rules short enough he can print on a business card (or hang on his office wall or whatever), and posted them here to test if they make sense to the wider community. TLDR: yes can seem bland / generic but within context it makes sense to me author needed to distill his ethics in a nutshell.
- zuzululu 5mo ago
  oh. I've never heard of zig. I use Rust.
  - gghh 5mo ago
    Fair :) I'm tourist in Zig land too, follow Kristoff / A. Kelley etc, Tiger Beetle DB (written in Zig) and stuff, but only as observer / bystander.
kristoff_it 5mo ago
I think you will be surprised by how many developers do not have this same list of priorities (or in that order) when developing software. I posted this link at the same time when I posted it to Lobsters (https://lobste.rs/s/g6lkw1/my_software_north_star https://lobste.rs/s/g6lkw1/my_software_north_star) 3 days ago, but it didn't get on the front page. Seeing that the submission time has been reset, I imagine it was given a second chance by HN curators (it's a known process), but that doesn't mean free upvotes, it's just that some people resonate with the thinking.

raincole 5mo ago

What 'all the comments'? There aren't many comments in this thread. You mean this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48432736 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48432736 ? I flagged it too. I think the flag is quite justified.

zuzululu 5mo ago
oh I don't particularly care I'm just asking what is it about this article that is so worthy of being front page? I'm literally just calling out the content. I'm sorry for complaining.
- jackhalford 5mo ago
  It’s getting attention because the subtext of the article is the zig vs AI ideological battle going on (and zig vs Rust somewhat on the backburner) Recent events AFAIU: - bun (bought by big AI) switching to Rust - zig team banning AI pull requests (because they want to review humans) - The cloud industry buying all coding tooling companies (uv, vite, bun) but zig being unbuyable If anybody from the zig core team is reading this: thank you and carry on the good work.
  - zuzululu 5mo ago
    so im just getting caught up with zig is I have never really paid attention to it so far I'm not really getting zig and I see they banned AI ? seems like that is just going to attract anti-AI user base...not sure if that was a wise decision. also not really sure why anyone would migrate from Rust to Zig, it seems much less mature and unsure of the ROI there.

gghh 5mo ago

It's bland and generic because it's a manifesto. Author (and HN submitter) is Loris Cro, aka @kristoff_it, VP of Community at Zig Software Foundation. In his role, devising as set of general guidelines to use as compass when things (inevitably! and often!) get very very muddy and Right v. Wrong is hard to tell apart -- both objectively, and also from the point of view of being a community leader with ton of vested interest -- is essentially one half of his job. Other half is abide to said guidelines. So @kristoff_it last week sat down, came up with three simple rules short enough he can print on a business card (or hang on his office wall or whatever), and posted them here to test if they make sense to the wider community. TLDR: yes can seem bland / generic but within context it makes sense to me author needed to distill his ethics in a nutshell.

zuzululu 5mo ago
oh. I've never heard of zig. I use Rust.
- gghh 5mo ago
  Fair :) I'm tourist in Zig land too, follow Kristoff / A. Kelley etc, Tiger Beetle DB (written in Zig) and stuff, but only as observer / bystander.

kristoff_it 5mo ago

I think you will be surprised by how many developers do not have this same list of priorities (or in that order) when developing software. I posted this link at the same time when I posted it to Lobsters (https://lobste.rs/s/g6lkw1/my_software_north_star https://lobste.rs/s/g6lkw1/my_software_north_star) 3 days ago, but it didn't get on the front page. Seeing that the submission time has been reset, I imagine it was given a second chance by HN curators (it's a known process), but that doesn't mean free upvotes, it's just that some people resonate with the thinking.