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The benefit here is designers learning to code. It was always weird to me that designers were shaping software without knowing how it was built. I'm a designer

The benefit here is designers learning to code. It was always weird to me that designers were shaping software without knowing how it was built. I'm a designer btw. However, designing in code is technology-first. One could argue that the purpose of design - to shape the artifacts for human purpose - is better done NOT starting with the strict rules of code. Pen and paper is still hard to beat, not for anything that looks nice, but for helping your mind forward.

ozim 4mo ago
But then you „design like software developers”.
- consp 4mo ago
  What's wrong with a good cli?
  - 946789987649 4mo ago
    My mum doesn't know how to use a cli.
    - preg_match 4mo ago
      [dead]
halapro 4mo ago
> without knowing how it was built It helps to understand the constraints of a medium, but you really don't need to know every level down to the electrons moving through the silicon.
- designerarvid 4mo ago
  Certainly, it helps the architect to know the constraints of concrete and bricks, but you don’t really have to know every level of down to the chemistry.
vdfs 4mo ago
LLM usually make you forget coding, it doubt it's good for learning if you use in this way. For a designer it would be similar to Figma where he see the result and can edit it using language instead of visual editor
physicsguy 4mo ago
Of course but sometimes designers like architects design something that can’t easily be built.
micromacrofoot 4mo ago
having an llm produce code isn't learning how to code, it's learning how to use a tool to produce code maybe that doesn't matter though, I suspect many developers will no longer look at all the code they produce either
- designerarvid 4mo ago
  Many nuances and “it depends” here in my experience. Is learning git part of “learning to code”? Some learn, others don’t. Of course hammering away prompts aren’t learning at all.
  - micromacrofoot 4mo ago
    indeed, I know some great developers that use git but haven't ever learned it
iLoveOncall 4mo ago
> The benefit here is designers learning to code. Designers aren't learning to code. My wife works as a product manager in a FAANG and her team has leaned extremely heavily in using AI to vibe-code some pieces of software that they would have done on Word, Excel or similar otherwise. They're not learning to code, they don't even look at the code a single second.
- designerarvid 4mo ago
  Generalising sure feels good doesn’t it?
illwrks 4mo ago
You need designers that have worked closely with engineers and have their head screwed on.
polyterative 4mo ago
I've been a full stack and frontend focused engineer for six years and got sick of writing code by hand. Moved to design. Now since I can code with my voice basically I'm getting back into vibe coding and building products. And it's awesome. My bosses still trying to figure out the new situation though, i think the old school separation of roles is starting to die.Being on the intersection I think is the best place to be right now. I feel like my whole life I've been preparing for this moment.

ozim 4mo ago

But then you „design like software developers”.

consp 4mo ago
What's wrong with a good cli?
- 946789987649 4mo ago
  My mum doesn't know how to use a cli.
  - preg_match 4mo ago
    [dead]

halapro 4mo ago

> without knowing how it was built It helps to understand the constraints of a medium, but you really don't need to know every level down to the electrons moving through the silicon.

designerarvid 4mo ago
Certainly, it helps the architect to know the constraints of concrete and bricks, but you don’t really have to know every level of down to the chemistry.

vdfs 4mo ago

LLM usually make you forget coding, it doubt it's good for learning if you use in this way. For a designer it would be similar to Figma where he see the result and can edit it using language instead of visual editor

physicsguy 4mo ago

Of course but sometimes designers like architects design something that can’t easily be built.

micromacrofoot 4mo ago

having an llm produce code isn't learning how to code, it's learning how to use a tool to produce code maybe that doesn't matter though, I suspect many developers will no longer look at all the code they produce either

designerarvid 4mo ago
Many nuances and “it depends” here in my experience. Is learning git part of “learning to code”? Some learn, others don’t. Of course hammering away prompts aren’t learning at all.
- micromacrofoot 4mo ago
  indeed, I know some great developers that use git but haven't ever learned it

iLoveOncall 4mo ago

> The benefit here is designers learning to code. Designers aren't learning to code. My wife works as a product manager in a FAANG and her team has leaned extremely heavily in using AI to vibe-code some pieces of software that they would have done on Word, Excel or similar otherwise. They're not learning to code, they don't even look at the code a single second.

designerarvid 4mo ago
Generalising sure feels good doesn’t it?

illwrks 4mo ago

You need designers that have worked closely with engineers and have their head screwed on.

polyterative 4mo ago

I've been a full stack and frontend focused engineer for six years and got sick of writing code by hand. Moved to design. Now since I can code with my voice basically I'm getting back into vibe coding and building products. And it's awesome. My bosses still trying to figure out the new situation though, i think the old school separation of roles is starting to die.Being on the intersection I think is the best place to be right now. I feel like my whole life I've been preparing for this moment.