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It irrelevant - babies are not needed for population growth - there's plenty of countries that are overpopulated all that is required is redistribution of the p

It irrelevant - babies are not needed for population growth - there's plenty of countries that are overpopulated all that is required is redistribution of the people we have rather than making more. If we look at these issues globally rather than on a per country basis it looks easier to resolve/different.

pfdietz 5mo ago
> babies are not needed for population growth Of course they are, on a global scale. There is no other process than birth that can increase global population.
- wewewedxfgdf 5mo ago
  That's being pedantic - of course I mean babies from other countries as well as adults - when birth rates drop in a country its easy to grow population with entire families including babies from countries that are overpopulated - this is a win for everyone including the environment.
  - noosphr 5mo ago
    This is a loss for everyone expecting to become anything but soyoent in their reteriment. An inverted population either kills the old or enslaves the young. We reached peak baby 5 years ago. There is a still a path to steady state population but that is closing fast.
    - wewewedxfgdf 5mo ago
      Governments need population growth to maintain economic growth - steady state population is very much against economic growth - the population must grow for the good of the economy and therefore the country.
      - apothegm 5mo ago
        Why must the economy grow? What’s wrong with a steady state economy?
  - palmotea 5mo ago
    > ...when birth rates drop in a country its easy to grow population with entire families including babies from countries that are overpopulated - this is a win for everyone including the environment. Your idea is dumb. The world fertility rate is barely above replacement and dropping (https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN). Do the math, it doesn't work.
  - wolvesechoes 5mo ago
    > this is a win for everyone Everyone that belongs to 0.1% of richest people in the society. All others get to win increased crime rates, salary stagnation and other benefits.
WorkerBee28474 5mo ago
Congratulations you just reinvented eugenics.

pfdietz 5mo ago

> babies are not needed for population growth Of course they are, on a global scale. There is no other process than birth that can increase global population.

wewewedxfgdf 5mo ago
That's being pedantic - of course I mean babies from other countries as well as adults - when birth rates drop in a country its easy to grow population with entire families including babies from countries that are overpopulated - this is a win for everyone including the environment.
- noosphr 5mo ago
  This is a loss for everyone expecting to become anything but soyoent in their reteriment. An inverted population either kills the old or enslaves the young. We reached peak baby 5 years ago. There is a still a path to steady state population but that is closing fast.
  - wewewedxfgdf 5mo ago
    Governments need population growth to maintain economic growth - steady state population is very much against economic growth - the population must grow for the good of the economy and therefore the country.
    - apothegm 5mo ago
      Why must the economy grow? What’s wrong with a steady state economy?
- palmotea 5mo ago
  > ...when birth rates drop in a country its easy to grow population with entire families including babies from countries that are overpopulated - this is a win for everyone including the environment. Your idea is dumb. The world fertility rate is barely above replacement and dropping (https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN). Do the math, it doesn't work.
- wolvesechoes 5mo ago
  > this is a win for everyone Everyone that belongs to 0.1% of richest people in the society. All others get to win increased crime rates, salary stagnation and other benefits.

WorkerBee28474 5mo ago

Congratulations you just reinvented eugenics.