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Let's follow the timeline, shall we? It shouldn't be difficult as it's a pretty linear tree in the comments. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423657 h

Let's follow the timeline, shall we? It shouldn't be difficult as it's a pretty linear tree in the comments. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423657 I mentioned that Europe is a lot more than the EU, and even within the EU member countries diverge. 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423908 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423908 trumpdong then makes a comment that I interpret as saying the EU doesn't have a lot of power over member states, and saying that the worst which could happen to one of them is to be kicked out of the EU. 3. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48424244 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48424244 Slightly shocked by the idea that the EU should be doing something worse than expelling a member for not following the Union's rules, I use a _reductio ad absurdum_ and ask if they thought the EU should be harder and actually perform an armed invasion of a member state that didn't follow them. 4. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425100 To my shock, trumpdong literally says "yes". 5. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425487 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425487 I, due to the shock described above, decide to question again in more words if that's actually what they mean. --- Hopefully that responds your question. I see no straw man, but if you still do, please present it.

lukan 5mo ago
You did not ask that: "ask if they thought the EU should be harder and actually perform an armed invasion of a member state that didn't follow them." You asked this: "> the worst they can do is kick them out of the EU As opposed to what? Armed invasion?" Where trumpdong reploed with a affirmative "yes". So the worst they can do is kick someone out. No one demanded the EU should do armed invasion.
- cassianoleal 5mo ago
  They complained kicking out the worst. I suggested one possible worse possibility (again, in a reductio ad absurdum rhetoric), trying to understand what they thought should be done more than "just kicking them out". They agreed with it. I don't know why you're taking their pain.
  - lukan 5mo ago
    You seem to enjoy either pedantery to feel right, or genuinly missunderstood the conversation. And more pain I am not taking here.
    - cassianoleal 5mo ago
      I misunderstood the conversation I was having? Interesting.

lukan 5mo ago

You did not ask that: "ask if they thought the EU should be harder and actually perform an armed invasion of a member state that didn't follow them." You asked this: "> the worst they can do is kick them out of the EU As opposed to what? Armed invasion?" Where trumpdong reploed with a affirmative "yes". So the worst they can do is kick someone out. No one demanded the EU should do armed invasion.

cassianoleal 5mo ago
They complained kicking out the worst. I suggested one possible worse possibility (again, in a reductio ad absurdum rhetoric), trying to understand what they thought should be done more than "just kicking them out". They agreed with it. I don't know why you're taking their pain.
- lukan 5mo ago
  You seem to enjoy either pedantery to feel right, or genuinly missunderstood the conversation. And more pain I am not taking here.
  - cassianoleal 5mo ago
    I misunderstood the conversation I was having? Interesting.