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Legitimate question, what would Israel need that we don’t already openly provide?
by Aboutplants 4mo ago
Legitimate question, what would Israel need that we don’t already openly provide?
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- Arodex 4mo agoTrump doesn't let Bibi bomb Lebanon and doesn't fight to the last American in Iran
- ceejayoz 4mo ago> Trump doesn't let Bibi bomb Lebanon Sure he does. They did it today! https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj0g8jymg92o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj0g8jymg92o
- jasonlotito 4mo agoTrump doesn't let? Trump is sitting in a chair in the corner of the room of any negotiation he's in. He's weak at best.
- fakedang 4mo ago> sitting in a chair More like sleeping in the chair
- jasonlotito 4mo agoIt's in the corner, and it's porcelain. But you get it. And people worship that.
- jarym 4mo agoProtection from the risk that the tide might turn on them despite their extensive political lobbying? Just taking a guess here but probably not far off.
- basilgohar 4mo ago[flagged]
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- MilnerRoute 4mo agoUPDATED COMMENT: Wikipedia says the 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty was "a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity," according to both U.S. and Israeli governments. (Though they also note people who question that conclusion...) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
- Bender 4mo agoPublic wiki's may be subject to alternate reality. [1] [1] - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/au7GlkiF2O4 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/au7GlkiF2O4
- yde_java 4mo agoMight be an attempt to correct history after the bad fact. There are huge budgets nowadays set up to correct public opinion, e.g. https://www.timesofisrael.com/foreign-ministry-to-receive-massive-budget-for-public-diplomacy-abroad/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/foreign-ministry-to-receive-ma... Edit: a more recent article mentions a budget of $730M: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-just-quintupled-its-pr-budget-to-730-million-experts-say-it-wont-work/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-just-quintupled-its-pr-...
- jfiejfkdjs 4mo agoBut everyone has such budgets, so you could easily argue there's an attempt to revise history in both directions. And I can assure you the sum of the Chinese, Russian, Iranian and gulf budgets far surpass that of Israel's.
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- make3 4mo agothere's currently disagreements with Israel on their approach to Lebanon being way more aggressively and murderous than "necessary", whatever that means. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5904899-trump-netanyahu-lebanon-dispute/ https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5904899-trump-ne...
- anonu 4mo agoThe well publicized disagreements are just diplomatic cover. The USA can look tough. Israel might back off for a little bit. Everyone looks good for a moment. Reason has prevailed. Then it'll all go back to Israel's criminal "gaza policy" in South Lebanon, continuing the wanton murder of 1000s of civilians under the guise of "they use children as shields". Well yeah, it's endless guerilla warfare and now hezb has drones. Diplomacy is the only way.
- lyu07282 4mo agoYou can't really negotiate when one party is a religious fanatical death cult and the other one is Hezbollah.
- s5300 4mo ago[dead]
- rolph 4mo agocombat is a dynamic situation, if you have no idea what its participants can/cant/will/wont do, you cant formulate prevailing tactics. situational awareness is best when first hand, as someone may be lying to you, or may not even know what they are doing in the first place.
- bawolff 4mo agoI mean, they did just start a war with iran as a joint venture with trump. I could understand why anyone who starts a joint venture with trump would be nervous about trump selling them out. It is trump after all. Probably is a logical thing to be concerned about.
- CommanderData 4mo agoThe vessel state now fully controls its host, but I think public sentiment is reversing it just a little.
- ceejayoz 4mo agoDirt on anyone proposing that we stop openly providing such assistance?
- Animats 4mo ago"The designation stems from concerns within the Pentagon that Israel is making a particular effort to surveil top U.S. officials to get information on the Trump administration’s internal deliberations and decision-making on the conflicts in the Middle East, the officials said." So Israel wants to know what Trump is going to do next.
- YZF 4mo agoDon't we all.
- sanderjd 4mo agoSeems like he's the only one that doesn't feel any need to think about this question.
- classified 4mo agoWhich, of course, is deliberate. He has weaponized uncertainty to perfection.
- gosub100 4mo agoOne of the YouTube "CIA former spies" explained it very well (paraphrasing): "we shared the F-35 with them, but we kept about 10% of the technology to ourselves and sold them a variant. That wasn't enough for them, they ran an espionage operation to get the remaining 10%".
- slipperybeluga 4mo ago[dead]
- basisword 4mo agoNew blackmail material in case Trump starts to turn on them?
- Terr_ 4mo agoAnything that the chief-executives of either government can exploit to keep themselves out of jail.