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The death of the techempower web server benchmarks means new ones like this one no longer have the chance to prove themselves. Edit: it seems I'm just falling

The death of the techempower web server benchmarks means new ones like this one no longer have the chance to prove themselves. Edit: it seems I'm just falling behind and the new hotness is https://www.http-arena.com/leaderboard/ https://www.http-arena.com/leaderboard/. Good luck!

winter_blue 4mo ago
What do you mean it's dead? It's up at: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r23 https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r23 with the last benchmark having been in February 2025, but they don't run their benchmarks that often, only once a year or less as its rounds history indicates.
- password4321 4mo ago
  Maybe we're both part of today's lucky 10,000 (xkcd#1053)? Sunsetting the Techempower Framework Benchmarks https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47497763 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47497763
dakolli 4mo ago
LLM UI/UX is so bad. Like how hard is it to put a weekends effort into UX for something like this.
- j_clark 4mo ago
  Spot on. It’s painful to see someone build something technically impressive only to do a disservice to their own effort with a bad interface.
- MDA2AV 4mo ago
  Unfortunately I might have to agree that the UI/UX isn't the strong point, as expected of a website built by a firmware developer using AI tools' help, I would appreciate any feedback on how to improve it though, regardless, the tough part on a project like this is what is invisible to the eye, stable hardware/harness and reviewing PRs in 20 different languages/technologies to keep the leaderboard competitive.
  - dakolli 4mo ago
    Its an impressive project. You could get really far by just picking a softer color palette. There's an over reliance on color coding going on that's hard on the eyes. Optional pagination would be nice, I would use a Zebra pattern on the rows backgrounds and larger row heights but that's just me, and I'll admit making nice tables with lots of data look nice is hard. I'm also not a designer :/ The problem is when I see this color pallete I assume everything is vibe coded and then I have a hard time taking the rest of the project seriously / trusting it. I'm not sure why every llm generated UI uses those colors, but they do. I'm not sure how it ended up so concretely in their training data either because this wasn't ever the norm. I think the models just start with Red Blue Green Yellow and then expect the user to adjust from there, idk.
    - MDA2AV 4mo ago
      Thanks for feedback, applied some simpler UI/UX with zebra pattern tables but yea it is quite rough designing these tables that pack so much information in them.
  - password4321 4mo ago
    Maybe just go hard in the opposite direction, absolutely bare minimum spartan UI... the problem is mostly that it looks AI, not necessarily that it looks terrible.
  - password4321 4mo ago
    Maybe just go hard in the opposite direction, absolutely bare minimum spartan UI... I'm not an expert on AI UI but the problem with generated text is that it smells like AI aka the same/average with a few key tells that set off people's radar, not necessarily that it is terrible (more of a vibe check?). Host a design competition and pay contestants with exposure! ;)
    - MDA2AV 4mo ago
      Did some changes to it https://www.http-arena.com/ https://www.http-arena.com/ :o

winter_blue 4mo ago

What do you mean it's dead? It's up at: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r23 https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r23 with the last benchmark having been in February 2025, but they don't run their benchmarks that often, only once a year or less as its rounds history indicates.

password4321 4mo ago
Maybe we're both part of today's lucky 10,000 (xkcd#1053)? Sunsetting the Techempower Framework Benchmarks https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47497763 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47497763

dakolli 4mo ago

LLM UI/UX is so bad. Like how hard is it to put a weekends effort into UX for something like this.

j_clark 4mo ago
Spot on. It’s painful to see someone build something technically impressive only to do a disservice to their own effort with a bad interface.
MDA2AV 4mo ago
Unfortunately I might have to agree that the UI/UX isn't the strong point, as expected of a website built by a firmware developer using AI tools' help, I would appreciate any feedback on how to improve it though, regardless, the tough part on a project like this is what is invisible to the eye, stable hardware/harness and reviewing PRs in 20 different languages/technologies to keep the leaderboard competitive.
- dakolli 4mo ago
  Its an impressive project. You could get really far by just picking a softer color palette. There's an over reliance on color coding going on that's hard on the eyes. Optional pagination would be nice, I would use a Zebra pattern on the rows backgrounds and larger row heights but that's just me, and I'll admit making nice tables with lots of data look nice is hard. I'm also not a designer :/ The problem is when I see this color pallete I assume everything is vibe coded and then I have a hard time taking the rest of the project seriously / trusting it. I'm not sure why every llm generated UI uses those colors, but they do. I'm not sure how it ended up so concretely in their training data either because this wasn't ever the norm. I think the models just start with Red Blue Green Yellow and then expect the user to adjust from there, idk.
  - MDA2AV 4mo ago
    Thanks for feedback, applied some simpler UI/UX with zebra pattern tables but yea it is quite rough designing these tables that pack so much information in them.
- password4321 4mo ago
  Maybe just go hard in the opposite direction, absolutely bare minimum spartan UI... the problem is mostly that it looks AI, not necessarily that it looks terrible.
- password4321 4mo ago
  Maybe just go hard in the opposite direction, absolutely bare minimum spartan UI... I'm not an expert on AI UI but the problem with generated text is that it smells like AI aka the same/average with a few key tells that set off people's radar, not necessarily that it is terrible (more of a vibe check?). Host a design competition and pay contestants with exposure! ;)
  - MDA2AV 4mo ago
    Did some changes to it https://www.http-arena.com/ https://www.http-arena.com/ :o