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Yet swatting, making police kick in the doors and shoot the dogs of someone who was victim of anonymous slander, isn't really a thing here in europe compared to
by lukan 5mo ago
Yet swatting, making police kick in the doors and shoot the dogs of someone who was victim of anonymous slander, isn't really a thing here in europe compared to the US.
- SpectreHat 5mo agoThe user you replied to was talking about UK, not Europe.
- Cider9986 5mo agoMy first two sentences were about the UK. The third was general.
- dom96 5mo agoThe UK is a part of Europe.
- exe34 5mo agoGeographically, that's quite the zinger. Legally, no. Different laws.
- cassianoleal 5mo agoEurope has many many different jurisdictions. Even if you take the European Union alone and ignore all the other European countries, the EU only legislates over a subset of things for member countries.
- exe34 5mo agoMuch less the UK.
- cassianoleal 5mo agoI'm not sure how much less it is than, say, Bosnia, Serbia, Belarus, Kosovo...
- trumpdong 5mo agoThe EU has no sovereignty, countries (like Hungary and Germany) can openly disobey it and the worst they can do is kick them out of the EU
- cassianoleal 5mo ago> the worst they can do is kick them out of the EU As opposed to what? Armed invasion?
- trumpdong 5mo agoYes. The EU has no army, no legal sovereignty within each country, etc. It's an alliance of countries NOT a single federal government. The individual countries remain in charge of themselves and the alliance is supposed to be structured in a way that only paases things the countries actually want.
- cassianoleal 5mo agoSo you think it would be better if the EU started a war with a member state that failed to uphold the union's laws?
- lukan 5mo agoWhy would he or she think that? Your questions are close to strawman arguments in my perception.
- cassianoleal 5mo agoLet's follow the timeline, shall we? It shouldn't be difficult as it's a pretty linear tree in the comments. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423657 I mentioned that Europe is a lot more than the EU, and even within the EU member countries diverge. 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423908 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423908 trumpdong then makes a comment that I interpret as saying the EU doesn't have a lot of power over member states, and saying that the worst which could happen to one of them is to be kicked out of the EU. 3. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48424244 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48424244 Slightly shocked by the idea that the EU should be doing something worse than expelling a member for not following the Union's rules, I use a _reductio ad absurdum_ and ask if they thought the EU should be harder and actually perform an armed invasion of a member state that didn't follow them. 4. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425100 To my shock, trumpdong literally says "yes". 5. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425487 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425487 I, due to the shock described above, decide to question again in more words if that's actually what they mean. --- Hopefully that responds your question. I see no straw man, but if you still do, please present it.
- graemep 5mo agoThe US has a good constitution but worse policing.
- exe34 5mo agoWhat good is a piece of paper? I have nice toilet paper. It doesn't make me safer when visiting the US.
- graemep 5mo agoThe entire point of a constitution is that, unlike toilet paper, it can be enforced by the courts.
- sph 5mo agoThe very politicized US courts that collude with and are completely in the pocket of whomever's running the country? More developed countries have a clear separation between the judiciary and the executive powers.
- sofixa 5mo agoIn theory, unless the supreme court is bought and paid for and decrees things like "immunity for official business".
- exe34 5mo agoAnd which one are the courts enforcing at the moment in the US? Pretti? Good?
- trumpdong 5mo agoCan be, or is? Courts can enforce my toilet paper too.
- ben_w 5mo agoTrying to imagine how, and the only thing I can think of is that technically you can write a contract on anything? And possibly a cheque, too, because a the cheques in a chequebook are just a standardised IOU form with exactly the same legal weight as if it was done by hand? (Vague memory that someone used this to avoid paying a bill, because refusing a cheque when offered counted as discharging the debt it represents (if I have the right terminology), and as cheques could be written on anything they chose to write it on a car that physically would not fit through the door).