5 ms·

> The trials for the Pfizer vaccine came back as 95% effective. Actually 99% But it turned out it was only 37% effective and then they stopped reporting the e

> The trials for the Pfizer vaccine came back as 95% effective. Actually 99% But it turned out it was only 37% effective and then they stopped reporting the efficacy. On to boosters!

defrost 4mo ago
It was 95% and it was documented in trials. And then the COVID virus mutated, reducing the efficacy of that specific vaccine variant. Current real-world data shows latest updated Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of hospitalization by roughly 50% to 60% and lower the risk of urgent care or emergency department visits by 50% to 75%. Yale medical regularly updates efficacy data on a roughly six month(? IIRC) cycle, other countries also routinely publish.
- genewitch 4mo ago
  well, you might be right oh wait https://nextcloud.projectftm.com/index.php/s/vaccine100percent https://nextcloud.projectftm.com/index.php/s/vaccine100perce... stand up when any of the numbers you mention show up! * note: you have to wait a bit since everyone said it was 100% effective
  - defrost 4mo ago
    Have a real source? Maybe everyone you talked to or US press perhaps - here we ran with medical trials and epidemiologists. > everyone said it was 100% effective You're quoting idiots then - or second / third hand press reporting, or US/UK officials pressured by the US/UK admin of the time. Not everyone lived in a politically captured shitshow.
    - genewitch 4mo ago
      > Similar vaccine efficacy (generally 90 to 100%) was observed across subgroups defined by age, sex, race, ethnicity, baseline body-mass index, and the presence of coexisting conditions. https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577 https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577 also my source was i was cognizant during the 2020-2023 years and paying very close attention to every presser. the headlines comport with my memory of the reporting and the timeline of the efficacy decay.

> The trials for the Pfizer vaccine came back as 95% effective. Actually 99% But it turned out it was only 37% effective and then they stopped reporting the efficacy. On to boosters!

defrost 4mo ago

It was 95% and it was documented in trials. And then the COVID virus mutated, reducing the efficacy of that specific vaccine variant. Current real-world data shows latest updated Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of hospitalization by roughly 50% to 60% and lower the risk of urgent care or emergency department visits by 50% to 75%. Yale medical regularly updates efficacy data on a roughly six month(? IIRC) cycle, other countries also routinely publish.

genewitch 4mo ago
well, you might be right oh wait https://nextcloud.projectftm.com/index.php/s/vaccine100percent https://nextcloud.projectftm.com/index.php/s/vaccine100perce... stand up when any of the numbers you mention show up! * note: you have to wait a bit since everyone said it was 100% effective
- defrost 4mo ago
  Have a real source? Maybe everyone you talked to or US press perhaps - here we ran with medical trials and epidemiologists. > everyone said it was 100% effective You're quoting idiots then - or second / third hand press reporting, or US/UK officials pressured by the US/UK admin of the time. Not everyone lived in a politically captured shitshow.
  - genewitch 4mo ago
    > Similar vaccine efficacy (generally 90 to 100%) was observed across subgroups defined by age, sex, race, ethnicity, baseline body-mass index, and the presence of coexisting conditions. https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577 https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577 also my source was i was cognizant during the 2020-2023 years and paying very close attention to every presser. the headlines comport with my memory of the reporting and the timeline of the efficacy decay.