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Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android
- ayi 14y agothe android app is outsourced to a company and it's awful.
- TobbenTM 14y agoYeah, looks like it. Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.outlook.Z7 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.outlook.Z7 They could at least include screenshots of the inbox. Not that interested in the composing and welcome screens.
- angry-hacker 14y agoIt looks more like a joke... this can't be real. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.outlook.Z7 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.outlook.Z7
- myko 14y agoI thought it was a scam and nearly reported it before finding out it was legit. It's that bad.
- Toshio 14y agoBy "active" they must mean "actively collecting spam".
- pav3l 14y agoI have a very active hotmail account and it's actually amazing at filtering out spam.
- BozeWolf 14y agoWhat a coincidence, I registered yesterday. Must have been me ;) But seriously: WTF. It sucks so badly, that badly needs to be redefined. OK, it's much better then msn/live mail was... and redefining badly is perhaps a bit too harsh. But it still sucks. Did anybody see what it looks like? It is very clean. Boring even. And in chrome the screen is not even 100% height in the mail overview. (And sending mail from google mail ended up in junk, but that may have been bad luck). I do like the new stuff MS is trying though. I really hope their metro stuff on desktop and mobile will cause some movement in the 'almost the same for many years now'-interfaces from other manufacturers. In that case I might benefit from their experiments as well.
- riffraff 14y agoI am downvoting you because you said 5 times that it's bad, and you have provided 1 single arguable example of why it is so.
- BozeWolf 14y agoI agree, I do not deserve points for just saying how I 'feel' about outlook. Thats no fundamental reason. Just a feeling. It depends on how you look at it: this feeling, just not liking it, might others have as well.
- kennu 14y agoI think Outlook.com has plenty of real usability issues. For instance, it immediately forgets which messages you had checkboxed if you just jump to the next page and come back. And the whole From/Subject index view can display very little information compared to Gmail. You don't get the same "I am in control" feeling. And whatever you click on Outlook.com, there's always a noticeable delay before anything happens. Personally I think that if you launch a new webmail service, you should first make it at least as functional, usable and solid as Gmail. Otherwise what's the point.
- dpark 14y ago> Did anybody see what it looks like? It is very clean. Boring even. I'm sorry that you don't like clean interfaces? The modern Microsoft interface aesthetic is minimal by design. It's not something that everyone loves. > And in chrome the screen is not even 100% height in the mail overview. That's because you don't have anything in your mailbox. It will expand as you get more mail. Gmail has the same behavior. You just happen to have a bunch of stuff sitting in your Gmail inbox.
- xradionut 14y agoThe reason Outlook.com has 25 million users is that it's harvesting/transplanting users from the it's Hotmail user base.
- meaty 14y agoI'd use the term "bullying" in this respect.
- Zirro 14y agoAre they just urging people to switch, or do they actually move them over without the user having a say in it?
- meaty 14y agoUrging - regularly. I use a hotmail account for trash signups and they are pushing constantly.
- JimmaDaRustla 14y agoI don't remember ever getting an e-mail, and if I did, hotmail still has a delete button.
- dpark 14y agoOut of curiosity, how are they pushing? I just signed up for a new Hotmail account, and the only upsell I'm getting consistently is a small "Free Upgrade" link in the bottom left (which actually appears to be structured as an add, which is kind of strange). By the way, you can opt into "Outlook.com" without getting a new email address. You can keep your same address but get the new Outlook.com experience, which is quite frankly much improved. Disclosure: I work for Microsoft.
- hahainternet 14y agoI signed up for a 'comedy' outlook account without realising they would deactivate and migrate my hotmail account entirely. I was probably dumb for not reading the small print but they're definitely pushing people over and inflating their 'growth' because of it.
- hdra 14y agothe outlook.com web app is nice, but the Android app is complete junk,, looks like something they just put together in few days.. makes me wonder why they even bother making it in the first place...
- nodata 14y agoDoes the address book sync work in this version, or is it still broken like in their Hotmail app?
- mhd 14y agoI registered way back, and subscribed to two mailing lists to try it out. That exposed a major flaw to me: Conversation views are in reverse time order. Which is kinda okay if you're talking to an actual person and might just want to look up what you previously said, basically an extended version of (goshawful) top-quoting. It does break apart if you're trying to get into a new mailing list conversation where you have to read through 10 posts. If it had an option of reversing that, it wouldn't actually be that bad. Not as good as gmail, but better than all the desktop-clones like gmx.com or yahoo.
- sergiotapia 14y agoJumped on my own name email address on Outlook when they relaunched the new look and I have to save I love it. I find it much easier on the eyes and in the UX department than Gmail. Gmail to me feels stale and over encumbered by labels and buttons and checkboxes. There are some thing about Outlook that do annoy me, mainly how it doesn't want to save my password in the login form and automatically fill it in. It's ridiculous. I also dislike having to type my email address instead of just the username. `foo@outlook.com` it gets tiring. I don't regret switching! :)
- gman99 14y agoBookmarklet to force firefox to remember any password, even on pages that have autocomplete=off (like outlook.com) https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html#remember_password https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html#remember_... Drag that to your bookmarks toolbar and run it once before submitting the form on the website you want to remember passwords on.
- draggnar 14y agothe sweep feature in particular is very well done.
- IanDrake 14y agoAmong other things, I like push email. Gmail doesn't do that.
- forgotAgain 14y agoI wonder how many of the 25 million are people squatting on their family names and such. That's what I've done. I login once a week or so to make sure the account stays active.
- personlurking 14y agoHow frequently must one log in (to modern email clients) in order to not be deactivated? Once every 5 months and 30 days?
- jxi 14y agoI think it's 90 days for hotmail/outlook, which is pretty short compared to gmail, which I think is a year. But, that would also explain why it's a lot easier to get the email name you want on hotmail/outlook.
- SoapSeller 14y agoIf you're using a multi-account IM client(Adium/Pidign/etc') you can add the account there, and it will stay alive as long as you continue to use the client.
- smackfu 14y agoHonestly, any product is going to count someone who logs in once a week as active, no matter why they do it.