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You don't need an AI attribution tag to recognize slop. In my experience reviewing PRs, the slop-pushers are most aggressive about stripping the AI attribution
by Aurornis 5mo ago
You don't need an AI attribution tag to recognize slop. In my experience reviewing PRs, the slop-pushers are most aggressive about stripping the AI attribution anyway. It's the normal devs who use a little bit of AI who leave it in.
The tag is helpful because AI authorship is different than the human authorship. When you work with a project or team for long enough you start to trust certain people and their intuition, but when they start submitting AI-produced code you have to reset and review it like AI code.
I use these tools a lot, too. But I want to know where the code came from so I can review it accordingly. The source matters.
> Ostracize us?
I don't know why you're so defensive. If AI wrote the code just be honest about it.
If you outsourced the code writing to some guy named Bob on Fiverr, I'd want to know that too.
- matheusmoreira 5mo ago> I don't know why you're so defensive. Check it out: https://lobste.rs/s/29pm2f/llm_generated_submissions_should_be#c_sdgnjj https://lobste.rs/s/29pm2f/llm_generated_submissions_should_... https://lobste.rs/s/ytim7h/collection_small_low_stakes_low_effort#c_cijc57 https://lobste.rs/s/ytim7h/collection_small_low_stakes_low_e...
- Aurornis 5mo agoI'm not interesting in joining into some argument you're having with someone on lobste.rs
- matheusmoreira 5mo agoYou're not supposed to join. You said you didn't know why I was defensive. I showed you those posts as evidence of the stigma attached to LLMs and their usage. Now you know why.
- eschaton 5mo agoIt doesn’t help your case that your response is to say “well I’ll just hide my use.” That’s fraud.
- matheusmoreira 5mo agoNo.
- eschaton 5mo agoYes.
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- int_19h 5mo agoYou're not entitled to know what specific tools were used to produce something, generally speaking. In the absence of such an entitlement, not volunteering to disclose the tools used is not fraud.
- Ronsenshi 5mo agoDon't think calling a PR written by AI is the same thing as using a "tool". If code is largely generated by AI means that AI was an author and not you with some tool.
- matheusmoreira 5mo agoAt what point does it cease to be AI generated and become my own work? If LLM generates some code but I edit it, does it become my own work? How much editing must be done? How large is "largely" ? Exactly how many bits of information must come from my fingers tapping the keyboard in order for me to qualify for authorship? Be precise. If I write something but the LLM polishes it up a bit, is it still my work? Or is it AI generated?
- kelnos 5mo agoMaybe you should step back and see if there's a reason why there's a stigma, instead of stubbornly insisting that there's nothing different between submitting work that you wrote yourself, vs. work done by an LLM.
- matheusmoreira 5mo agoMaybe you should stop making excuses for the summary dismissal of people's years old projects as slop on the basis that an LLM touched it.