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Again, if you disagree with Penrose’s idea, just explain your disagreement. We can now simulate every aspect of consciousness except for long-term memory conso
by CamperBob2 5mo ago
Again, if you disagree with Penrose’s idea, just explain your disagreement.
We can now simulate every aspect of consciousness except for long-term memory consolidation, to the extent that you can't tell if you're talking to a conscious person or a computer. The existence of LLMs means that no quantum woo is necessary to explain consciousness. Our brains just do the same thing by different means.
In short, Penrose's argument is a religious one, not a scientific one.
- an0malous 5mo agoYou’re conflating consciousness with intelligence. Consciousness is subjective experience, there’s no way to know if any other people, much less machines, are conscious.
- CamperBob2 5mo agoThat doesn't mean we can't simulate it, though. Name an attribute of consciousness, and we can (or will soon be able to) simulate it.
- moosedev 5mo ago> You’re conflating consciousness with intelligence. Consciousness is subjective experience Indeed. Thinking is not the same as experiencing thinking. > there’s no way to know if any other people, much less machines, are conscious. Or even ourselves :D "Consciousness is just an illusion" "If so, who's experiencing the illusion?" "Yes"
- markhahn 5mo agoconsciousness is a behavior. experience is remembering that you had a behavior.