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I prefer ShortCat's model: https://shortcat.app/ https://shortcat.app/ Similar to Vimium, but for the whole OS. Apparently Homerow is similar, judging from co

by NateEag 4mo ago

I prefer ShortCat's model: https://shortcat.app/ https://shortcat.app/ Similar to Vimium, but for the whole OS. Apparently Homerow is similar, judging from comments I'm seeing here. I really wish I knew an equivalent for Linux. I might even leave Gnome behind if a different DE has a good model for this.

khutorni 4mo ago
ShortCat has a beautiful slogan: "Manipulate macOS masterfully, minus the mouse."
- nine_k 4mo ago
  The picture shows it nicely, too. (But I bet that most Macbook users don't even use a mouse.)
bobchadwick 4mo ago
I used to use (and love) ShortCat, but it got too slow on my ancient MacBook Pro. I switched to Mouseless, and I actually prefer it now.
- jmarcher 4mo ago
  Yeah, I tried on an Intel MBP years ago when it was first launched. It was super slow, and I disregarded it. I just gave it a try on an M4 Pro; it's not instantaneous like Vimmium, but it is usable. I am sold!
zuzululu 4mo ago
This is purrrfect ;) I've been looking for something like this
turtlebits 4mo ago
I like shortcat, but it's slow, even on a modern Mac. Also, I'm not sure the dynamic nature of the hotkeys is a good thing. I could imagine if you use Mouseless for a long period of time, muscle memory might prevail as screen locations map to the same set of keys.
- tcoff91 4mo ago
  Some apps have crappy accessibility so Homerow doesn't always work in some apps. so I kind of want to try mouseless as well. I might end up rocking both at the same time.
  - mjrusso 4mo ago
    Scoot supports element-based navigation (c/o accessibility APIs), plus grid-based navigation, via two separate modes: https://github.com/mjrusso/scoot https://github.com/mjrusso/scoot Unfortunately both modes are necessary, because many apps have all sorts of accessibility issues.
    - tcoff91 4mo ago
      This looks cool! I’ll have to try it
    - Barbing 4mo ago
      Brilliant, exactly what I need! (I think!)
UI_at_80x24 4mo ago
Have you looked into Sway/i3?
- colordrops 4mo ago
  Did you look at the links, these solve a different problem.
tmtvl 4mo ago
Have you tried Ratpoison? It's got a bunch of features to manipulate the rat with the keyboard.
- nosioptar 4mo ago
  If ratpoisons features aren't enough, stumpwm might work well, it's like ratpoison with lisp. Cagebreak is like ratpoison for Wayland. (I haven't tried it.) I suspect awesomewm might be a good candidate too. I messed around with trying to make it more ratpoisony. The results were pretty good.
- NateEag 4mo ago
  I have not. I've considered keyboard-driven WMs before, but have thus far gotten by using regular WMs with a few custom keybinds for window sizing, movement, and monitor placement. As long as you have an automated algorithm for the basic layout, it works pretty well. I still have to contendb with apps that don't offer the shortcuts I want, though, and that's when Shortcat is very handy.
ActorNightly 4mo ago
>I really wish I knew an equivalent for Linux I highly encourage you to vibecode something. Its really easy. You can get a small fast library that can do OCR with coordinates, and the rest is just interfacing with the x server to draw stuff over the top.
- NateEag 4mo ago
  Thanks for the suggestion. As one who's driving Claude daily due to corporate mandates, I can see why people fall in love with genAI coding, but my revulsion has only grown as I've learned to do it, so I won't be spending my free time with LLMs.
nosioptar 4mo ago
I haven't tried either yet, but vimium-everywhere and hints seem quite similar. https://github.com/phil294/vimium-everywhere https://github.com/phil294/vimium-everywhere https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints
- nine_k 4mo ago
  I like Vimium. But does it allow you to do arbitrary drag actions, as this thing does?
aquir 4mo ago
Thank you for this! I was looking for something like this for ages! Used very similar in browsers but never imagined to have a system-wide version!
vixalien 4mo ago
You could try Hints for Linux https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints
- NateEag 4mo ago
  Thank you! This looks like exactly what I've been looking for! The name is very reasonable, but effectively ungoogleable.

by NateEag 4mo ago

khutorni 4mo ago

ShortCat has a beautiful slogan: "Manipulate macOS masterfully, minus the mouse."

nine_k 4mo ago
The picture shows it nicely, too. (But I bet that most Macbook users don't even use a mouse.)

bobchadwick 4mo ago

I used to use (and love) ShortCat, but it got too slow on my ancient MacBook Pro. I switched to Mouseless, and I actually prefer it now.

jmarcher 4mo ago
Yeah, I tried on an Intel MBP years ago when it was first launched. It was super slow, and I disregarded it. I just gave it a try on an M4 Pro; it's not instantaneous like Vimmium, but it is usable. I am sold!

zuzululu 4mo ago

This is purrrfect ;) I've been looking for something like this

turtlebits 4mo ago

I like shortcat, but it's slow, even on a modern Mac. Also, I'm not sure the dynamic nature of the hotkeys is a good thing. I could imagine if you use Mouseless for a long period of time, muscle memory might prevail as screen locations map to the same set of keys.

tcoff91 4mo ago
Some apps have crappy accessibility so Homerow doesn't always work in some apps. so I kind of want to try mouseless as well. I might end up rocking both at the same time.
- mjrusso 4mo ago
  Scoot supports element-based navigation (c/o accessibility APIs), plus grid-based navigation, via two separate modes: https://github.com/mjrusso/scoot https://github.com/mjrusso/scoot Unfortunately both modes are necessary, because many apps have all sorts of accessibility issues.
  - tcoff91 4mo ago
    This looks cool! I’ll have to try it
  - Barbing 4mo ago
    Brilliant, exactly what I need! (I think!)

UI_at_80x24 4mo ago

Have you looked into Sway/i3?

colordrops 4mo ago
Did you look at the links, these solve a different problem.

tmtvl 4mo ago

Have you tried Ratpoison? It's got a bunch of features to manipulate the rat with the keyboard.

nosioptar 4mo ago
If ratpoisons features aren't enough, stumpwm might work well, it's like ratpoison with lisp. Cagebreak is like ratpoison for Wayland. (I haven't tried it.) I suspect awesomewm might be a good candidate too. I messed around with trying to make it more ratpoisony. The results were pretty good.
NateEag 4mo ago
I have not. I've considered keyboard-driven WMs before, but have thus far gotten by using regular WMs with a few custom keybinds for window sizing, movement, and monitor placement. As long as you have an automated algorithm for the basic layout, it works pretty well. I still have to contendb with apps that don't offer the shortcuts I want, though, and that's when Shortcat is very handy.

ActorNightly 4mo ago

>I really wish I knew an equivalent for Linux I highly encourage you to vibecode something. Its really easy. You can get a small fast library that can do OCR with coordinates, and the rest is just interfacing with the x server to draw stuff over the top.

NateEag 4mo ago
Thanks for the suggestion. As one who's driving Claude daily due to corporate mandates, I can see why people fall in love with genAI coding, but my revulsion has only grown as I've learned to do it, so I won't be spending my free time with LLMs.

nosioptar 4mo ago

I haven't tried either yet, but vimium-everywhere and hints seem quite similar. https://github.com/phil294/vimium-everywhere https://github.com/phil294/vimium-everywhere https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints

nine_k 4mo ago
I like Vimium. But does it allow you to do arbitrary drag actions, as this thing does?

aquir 4mo ago

Thank you for this! I was looking for something like this for ages! Used very similar in browsers but never imagined to have a system-wide version!

vixalien 4mo ago

You could try Hints for Linux https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints

NateEag 4mo ago
Thank you! This looks like exactly what I've been looking for! The name is very reasonable, but effectively ungoogleable.