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Starmer is about as left headed as a straight line railway across Australia. Corbyn was left (maybe). cf. https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2024 https://www.p

by eqvinox 4mo ago

Starmer is about as left headed as a straight line railway across Australia. Corbyn was left (maybe). cf. https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2024 https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2024 Even if you consider that page biased in whatever way - it's still useful for comparisons on the same scale. E.g. https://www.politicalcompass.org/norway2025 https://www.politicalcompass.org/norway2025

sophrosyne42 4mo ago
Starmer is a Fabian. He is textbook, self identified left and socialist. He is pretty much a poster child for leftism.
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- christkv 4mo ago
  The whole uk establishment including the civil service is one giant expression of fabian thought. The civil service runs itself, appointing itself and ignoring political power. Labour with Starmer just happens to a time where fabians are in control of the entire state.
- vintermann 4mo ago
  Not in policy, no he definitively isn't. It's actually possible to join and have a career in political party without believing a word of what they stand for. There are examples all over the world, but Starmer is among the most blatant ones. My best theory is that he's chum with one of UK's many spy lords - that is, upper class twats with a sinecure in the secret services - and that he's trying to destroy Labour for them (and the good of the country of course). He only failed last election because the conservative party was even more self-destructive.
AuthAuth 4mo ago
he is objectively left wing. People are over indexing on his controversies instead of looking at his policy platform as a whole. Also take into account that he is in a democracy the leans right on many un-impactful but hot topic issues.
neonstatic 4mo ago
> Corbyn was left (maybe). Corbyn was (is?) a Castro-sympathizing communist. If you classify him as "left (maybe)", then I don't even want to ask what is "left" to you.
deaux 4mo ago
Guy is all over this post commenting nonsense because he's in love with the party that instated martial law recently and tried to do a coup. You're wasting your time on him. You're completely right that the Korean blues are anything but left. Not even just compared to Corbyn, even compared to European labor parties (the champagne "social democrats" in each country). Biden was more left-wing than the Korean blues. That tells you everything. In many ways the Korean blues are more nationalist than the reds, which can't be said about basically any modern relevant left-wing party elsewhere. Another good indicator they're absolutely not left-wing.

by eqvinox 4mo ago

sophrosyne42 4mo ago

Starmer is a Fabian. He is textbook, self identified left and socialist. He is pretty much a poster child for leftism.

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christkv 4mo ago
The whole uk establishment including the civil service is one giant expression of fabian thought. The civil service runs itself, appointing itself and ignoring political power. Labour with Starmer just happens to a time where fabians are in control of the entire state.
vintermann 4mo ago
Not in policy, no he definitively isn't. It's actually possible to join and have a career in political party without believing a word of what they stand for. There are examples all over the world, but Starmer is among the most blatant ones. My best theory is that he's chum with one of UK's many spy lords - that is, upper class twats with a sinecure in the secret services - and that he's trying to destroy Labour for them (and the good of the country of course). He only failed last election because the conservative party was even more self-destructive.

AuthAuth 4mo ago

he is objectively left wing. People are over indexing on his controversies instead of looking at his policy platform as a whole. Also take into account that he is in a democracy the leans right on many un-impactful but hot topic issues.

neonstatic 4mo ago

> Corbyn was left (maybe). Corbyn was (is?) a Castro-sympathizing communist. If you classify him as "left (maybe)", then I don't even want to ask what is "left" to you.

deaux 4mo ago

Guy is all over this post commenting nonsense because he's in love with the party that instated martial law recently and tried to do a coup. You're wasting your time on him. You're completely right that the Korean blues are anything but left. Not even just compared to Corbyn, even compared to European labor parties (the champagne "social democrats" in each country). Biden was more left-wing than the Korean blues. That tells you everything. In many ways the Korean blues are more nationalist than the reds, which can't be said about basically any modern relevant left-wing party elsewhere. Another good indicator they're absolutely not left-wing.