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> It turns out that when you level the playing field, girls do better than boys. Why is it that when boys/men where outperforming and out-earning women, people

> It turns out that when you level the playing field, girls do better than boys. Why is it that when boys/men where outperforming and out-earning women, people were willing to move heaven and earth to correct this terrible injustice, but now when outcomes have reversed (for years at this point) it's considered acceptable to say "Welp, that's just how it goes. Boys just aren't good enough." Hmmm...almost like, it's not a level playing field??

bluGill 4mo ago
Until someone can show a real biological difference we should level the playing field. We do know boys mature later which may be reason to not level the field completely, but we should still not allow that as an excuse. If someone shows another difference I will have to think in depth about the details before I can comment.
- rimliu 4mo ago
  So you claim that biolgically males and females are the same?
  - bluGill 4mo ago
    For the purposes of 'intelligent' which is the topic here.
- rootusrootus 4mo ago
  > We do know boys mature later which may be reason to not level the field completely, but we should still not allow that as an excuse. I am quite a long ways from right-leaning but this sure does lend credence to their claims of discrimination. If it weren't boys, we'd say that a biological disadvantage is absolutely acceptable as an excuse, and we should try to correct for it.
ckw 4mo ago
Approximate shares of undergraduate enrollment by sex: Year Male Female 1970 58% 42% 1975 53% 47% 1980 48% 52% 1985 46% 54% 1990 45% 55% 1995 44.5% 55.5% 2000 43.9% 56.1% 2005 43.3% 56.7% 2010 43.0% 57.0% 2015 43.6% 56.4% 2020 42.7% 57.3% 2025 42.7% 57.3% So men have been in the minority for at least 46 years, and the skew is as large as it was in 1970, but reversed.
- stickfigure 4mo ago
  This is true and interesting but it's also incomplete. Men still dominate most STEM degrees, and unlike law or business it doesn't seem to be evening out over time. I'm not sure what conclusions we can draw from this.
  - rootusrootus 4mo ago
    > I'm not sure what conclusions we can draw from this. My suggestion would be: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Take your thumb off the scale."
rustcleaner 4mo ago
Structural misandry. I'm telling you the Zoomer/Alpha boys have taken notice and are checking out of the system. Chickens coming home to roost in a few more decades as the West goes longhouse and gets economically pounded by the East. I was an early bird in MGTOW, but now it's common knowledge and operating strategy for most young men. Boys don't owe society squat, and now they know it!
- Silamoth 4mo ago
  MGTOW nonsense most certainly is not the common mode of operation for young men. Where are you getting this idea?
- DonHopkins 4mo ago
  OK Incel.

bluGill 4mo ago

Until someone can show a real biological difference we should level the playing field. We do know boys mature later which may be reason to not level the field completely, but we should still not allow that as an excuse. If someone shows another difference I will have to think in depth about the details before I can comment.

rimliu 4mo ago
So you claim that biolgically males and females are the same?
- bluGill 4mo ago
  For the purposes of 'intelligent' which is the topic here.
rootusrootus 4mo ago
> We do know boys mature later which may be reason to not level the field completely, but we should still not allow that as an excuse. I am quite a long ways from right-leaning but this sure does lend credence to their claims of discrimination. If it weren't boys, we'd say that a biological disadvantage is absolutely acceptable as an excuse, and we should try to correct for it.

ckw 4mo ago

Approximate shares of undergraduate enrollment by sex: Year Male Female 1970 58% 42% 1975 53% 47% 1980 48% 52% 1985 46% 54% 1990 45% 55% 1995 44.5% 55.5% 2000 43.9% 56.1% 2005 43.3% 56.7% 2010 43.0% 57.0% 2015 43.6% 56.4% 2020 42.7% 57.3% 2025 42.7% 57.3% So men have been in the minority for at least 46 years, and the skew is as large as it was in 1970, but reversed.

stickfigure 4mo ago
This is true and interesting but it's also incomplete. Men still dominate most STEM degrees, and unlike law or business it doesn't seem to be evening out over time. I'm not sure what conclusions we can draw from this.
- rootusrootus 4mo ago
  > I'm not sure what conclusions we can draw from this. My suggestion would be: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Take your thumb off the scale."

rustcleaner 4mo ago

Structural misandry. I'm telling you the Zoomer/Alpha boys have taken notice and are checking out of the system. Chickens coming home to roost in a few more decades as the West goes longhouse and gets economically pounded by the East. I was an early bird in MGTOW, but now it's common knowledge and operating strategy for most young men. Boys don't owe society squat, and now they know it!

Silamoth 4mo ago
MGTOW nonsense most certainly is not the common mode of operation for young men. Where are you getting this idea?
DonHopkins 4mo ago
OK Incel.