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All AI sucks, it's not a Google problem.
by josefritzishere 5mo ago
All AI sucks, it's not a Google problem.
- zuzululu 5mo agoDisagree and if you actively use it in your workflow well you will realize its a major competitive edge. Nobody is going to hold you back from falling behind tho and I'm not here to convince you otherwise.
- josefritzishere 5mo ago[flagged]
- tokioyoyo 5mo agoHard to believe that there are any non-mission-critical companies that won’t question one’s rejection of AI. Sounds insane, I know, but not using some LLMs to quickly look up a problem is akin to avoiding Googling when you have a problem. Yes, they can be wrong. But if you’re competent enough, you should spot the irrelevant suggestions.
- claytongulick 5mo agoMaybe? I don't know. I used to agree with this, but after the umpteenth time of Claude recommending some obsolete or dead old library, old version, getting major version breaking changes dead wrong, writing code for it that's not even API compatible with the published docs, etc... I started to question whether it was actually faster. I end up pouring over the original documentation anyway. I have learned some new things, been exposed to some new techniques, and learned about some new libraries, so it's hard to tell. The problem is made worse by so much of the internet being AI slop now, traditional searching is a huge time waste too. Looking forward to the next chapter of tech where we're able to use these tools appropriately and not destroy everything of value with them.
- gretch 5mo agoTurns out you don't have to bet your whole career. Do you think if AI turns out to be a dud, most of us will permanently lose our career as software engineers?
- jdiff 5mo agoNot the same person, but in the event of an AI collapse I think those that relied on it will be at a disadvantage. The rapid deskilling that happens with AI usage is becoming more documented.
- baggy_trough 5mo agoIf AI is good enough to cause peoples' skills to atrophy, then why would it collapse? It would seem that it was very useful indeed in that case.
- jdiff 5mo agoAtrophy of your basic skills can still be a problem. Like someone relying on a dozen specialized triangle angle calculators found on Google rather than understanding what SOHCAHTOA is.
- prmoustache 5mo agoI think some of us are witnessing brain rot spreading accross our peers already so I am pretty sure some people won't recover if one day their token quota/limit is removed/reduced for a reason.
- bigfishrunning 5mo agoIf your skills atrophy enough, maybe
- datsci_est_2015 5mo agoWilling to bet my career that how we use LLMs in 2027 will look nothing like how we use them in 2026 because of harness churn. My take is: focus on providing value to your company with the tools available today that appear least likely to churn out of existence tomorrow. The more specific and bespoke your harness, the likelier it is it will become obsolete very soon (I.e. the next frontier model release).
- swatcoder 5mo agoIndeed. It's promising technology, but the tools are far from mature yet. And as they do mature, the ramp up will decrease and their won't be any particular benefit to being an early adopter. For reasonably bright people, there's essentially no penalty to "missing out" for a while. As often, the FOMO-afflicted are churning on stuff that just won't matter. Which is fine if they enjoy it, but isn't something the rest of us need to fret over.
- datsci_est_2015 5mo ago100%. Imagine some talented engineer waking up from a 12 month coma. Do we honestly believe they’ll be permanently “behind” in the workforce because he wasn’t churning through LLM harnesses those past 12 months? What about 22 year old college graduates entering the workforce? Keep abreast, don’t lose sleep, don’t sacrifice work-life balance. Help each other, especially your coworkers. The current craze seems to have created stack ranking monsters out of the whole industry.
- QuercusMax 5mo agoMost of the harness related work I've done has been writing better documentation in the repository, and importing existing external documents. This type of stuff is gonna be useful no matter what, and also helps human engineers! I wish we could convince folks to write docs for human consumption, but docs are docs....
- zuzululu 5mo agoYou have no skin in the game but expect us to take your word for it.
- righthand 5mo agoCompetitive edge with who? Your coworkers? Your boss’ efficiency demands?
- zuzululu 5mo agoWith everybody else that uses AI silently and successfully.
- righthand 5mo agoAnd what is the competition? What is the end game? Fastest LLM code golfer? What about those getting in your way due to unsuccessful LLM use? What about the successful loud ones, who do they compete with if not you?
- jjulius 5mo ago>Disagree and if you actively use it in your workflow well you will realize its a major competitive edge. Depends on your line of work. I regularly try to incorporate it with mine and find myself telling it that it's wrong more often than not. I'm yet to be convinced that double-checking and correcting an LLM's work has saved me any more time than wading through garbage SEO-filled results to find what I need. >Nobody is going to hold you back from falling behind tho and I'm not here to convince you otherwise. The cockiness/hubris is real.
- zuzululu 5mo agoIf you are not getting value from LLM today that means whatever you are doing doesn't have the value you perceive it to have.