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> Not a tutorial. Not an ORM. Actual SQL ah, this is an Ai article
by NooneAtAll3 5mo ago
> Not a tutorial. Not an ORM. Actual SQL
ah, this is an Ai article
- John23832 5mo agoIt's always AI until proven otherwise... even then I'm skeptical.
- waffletower 5mo agoJohn23832, you are still an AI to me too.
- sophacles 5mo agoEllipses where a comma would suffice? Definitely AI. Not even a good model.
- ozim 5mo agoSo AI also thinks people somehow get away only with ORM without understanding SQL? Funny thing is, that is always argument of „anti ORM” people. I yet have to see someone actually argue that you don’t need to understand SQL and ORM will suffice in the wild. Then also find devs who can’t do a simple join as joins and index usage is not some black magic and is still required to use ORM properly.
- RegW 5mo ago> I yet have to see someone actually argue that you don’t need to understand SQL and ORM will suffice Well that's because decades of bitter experience has told us all that object graphs rarely map cleanly to sets of relationships. However, I do think that must have been the original idea as tools such as Hibernate tried so hard to obscure the underlying SQL and database. As a result all Hibernate objects have their own particular identity requirements which only made sense to a developer that knows what's going on under the hood.
- ozim 5mo agoI would still like some kind of proof. Like an early article having headline "ORM will replace SQL knowledge". I am professional dev for 15 years and hobbyist for 20 years and I might have missed something. But only thing I do remember was "anti ORM" people nagging how "one should really know SQL" - where I never heard anyone saying "don't learn SQL" maybe only NoSQL hype... but no one else.
- laughing_man 4mo agoI worked with people who argued that exact point and considered SQL outdated now that everything could be done with ORM.
- taormina 5mo agoDid you not see the banner image?
- thewebguyd 5mo agoCan we stop calling specific literary devices as automatically AI? Yes, LLMs overuse that pattern. But it's a valid rhetorical device used for many , many years by human authors. Quite often too, especially in philosophical writing, and fantasy novels. I'll give you that it wasn't often used in blogs or tech articles, but LLMs have been around long enough to have influenced human writing in other domains without the entirety of the content itself being LLM generated. But its called out so often I swear people online will go read some classics and accuse them of being AI generated.
- cindyllm 5mo ago[dead]
- jmye 5mo agoI just assume anyone posting it, at this point, doesn't read, doesn't write, or simply isn't clever enough to say anything that's actually worth listening to. Pure noise that won't go away because it makes the teenagers feel validated in how mad they are about AI.
- acephal 5mo agoThe amount of em dashes in Nietzche; the amount of semicolons in Hegel
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- pdevr 5mo agoDarn. I write exactly like this. You need to consider that people write in different ways, and the LLM is choosing from among the different styles.
- trumpdong 5mo agoI heard it mostly writes in a style associated with low-class people from Kenya.
- eszed 5mo agoI read the same piece you did (if it was on HN, anyway), and it described highly-educated-in-Kenya people. Nothing low-class implied. I suspect (though I may be wrong about this) that lower-class Kenyans aren't likely to be literate in English.
- sorokod 5mo agoI knew a lady who was named Isis at birth. She stopped using that name.
- blharr 5mo agoThere is little chance your writing is as consistently the exact same as the default LLM output, which this definitely is.
- lelanthran 4mo ago> I write exactly like this. You need to consider that people write in different ways, and the LLM is choosing from among the different styles. I'm skeptical. Give us an link to something you wrote prior to 2022.
- pdevr 4mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25985705 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25985705
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