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Didn’t the UK not six years ago vote to leave the EU? Is he suggesting that there’s demand from Britain to reverse that? Or is he suggesting they be forced to r

by 827a 4mo ago

Didn’t the UK not six years ago vote to leave the EU? Is he suggesting that there’s demand from Britain to reverse that? Or is he suggesting they be forced to rejoin?

Hamuko 4mo ago
Majority support at least. https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52410-nine-years-after-the-eu-referendum-where-does-public-opinion-stand-on-brexit https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52410-nine-years-after-the... https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54567-how-strong-is-uk-support-for-rejoining-the-european-union https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54567-how-strong-is-uk-sup...
- graemep 4mo ago
  Polls before the Brexit referendum also showed a majority for remaining.
  - AndrewDucker 4mo ago
    A few percent either way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United... As opposed to a 20-ish% lead for Rejoin at the moment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_re-accession_of_the_United_Kingdom_to_the_European_Union#Opinion_polling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_re-accession_of_the_...
  - Hamuko 4mo ago
    It was a +2 lead for Remain. Not the +21 that there is for rejoining. https://yougov.com/en-us/articles/15767-final-eve-vote-brexit-poll-remain-leads-two https://yougov.com/en-us/articles/15767-final-eve-vote-brexi...
    - graemep 4mo ago
      Just before the referendum. The lead at the time the referendum was called was much wider. One poll even had 66% remain in June 2015, while the Referendum Bill was in parliament.
      - Hamuko 4mo ago
        Well, I just assumed that when you said "polls before the Brexit referendum" that you mean polls that were made before the referendum, and not when the referendum was called.
satnhak 4mo ago
The problem the UK has had is that although the British people voted to leave the EU, most MPs we're against it and there was a very concerted effort to not honour the electorate's wishes. Brexit happened in name and by default. It was the worst possible outcome, but probably predictable.
- jemmyw 4mo ago
  It was a bit more nuanced than that. Each politician was trying to leave in their own image and failing to get anything through parliament, until Boris Johnson got a majority party. What would have been better is if the politicians who started the whole thing to settle party politics didn't bugger off the moment things didn't go their way and instead did a follow up referendum with the options for leaving. I don't necessarily think the eventual deal would have been different, but it would have stopped a lot of the bickering. And maybe have exposed what leaving meant to a greater number of people. I don't live in the UK any more, but I do enjoy reading the stories along the lines of "I voted for brexit and now my business has gone to shit" of which there are a surprisingly large number. The whole "we didn't want them telling us what to do but didn't think they'd apply rules to us like we weren't in the EU" crowd.
mopsi 4mo ago
Millions of Leave voters have died in the decade since the referendum. Graph: https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/KELLNER-brexit-graphic-1024x930.jpg https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/202... Article: https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/peter-kellner-an-anti-brexit-majority-of-eight-million/ https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/peter-kellner-an-anti-brexit-m...

by 827a 4mo ago

Didn’t the UK not six years ago vote to leave the EU? Is he suggesting that there’s demand from Britain to reverse that? Or is he suggesting they be forced to rejoin?

Hamuko 4mo ago

Majority support at least. https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52410-nine-years-after-the-eu-referendum-where-does-public-opinion-stand-on-brexit https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52410-nine-years-after-the... https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54567-how-strong-is-uk-support-for-rejoining-the-european-union https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54567-how-strong-is-uk-sup...

graemep 4mo ago
Polls before the Brexit referendum also showed a majority for remaining.
- AndrewDucker 4mo ago
  A few percent either way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United... As opposed to a 20-ish% lead for Rejoin at the moment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_re-accession_of_the_United_Kingdom_to_the_European_Union#Opinion_polling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_re-accession_of_the_...
- Hamuko 4mo ago
  It was a +2 lead for Remain. Not the +21 that there is for rejoining. https://yougov.com/en-us/articles/15767-final-eve-vote-brexit-poll-remain-leads-two https://yougov.com/en-us/articles/15767-final-eve-vote-brexi...
  - graemep 4mo ago
    Just before the referendum. The lead at the time the referendum was called was much wider. One poll even had 66% remain in June 2015, while the Referendum Bill was in parliament.
    - Hamuko 4mo ago
      Well, I just assumed that when you said "polls before the Brexit referendum" that you mean polls that were made before the referendum, and not when the referendum was called.

satnhak 4mo ago

The problem the UK has had is that although the British people voted to leave the EU, most MPs we're against it and there was a very concerted effort to not honour the electorate's wishes. Brexit happened in name and by default. It was the worst possible outcome, but probably predictable.

jemmyw 4mo ago
It was a bit more nuanced than that. Each politician was trying to leave in their own image and failing to get anything through parliament, until Boris Johnson got a majority party. What would have been better is if the politicians who started the whole thing to settle party politics didn't bugger off the moment things didn't go their way and instead did a follow up referendum with the options for leaving. I don't necessarily think the eventual deal would have been different, but it would have stopped a lot of the bickering. And maybe have exposed what leaving meant to a greater number of people. I don't live in the UK any more, but I do enjoy reading the stories along the lines of "I voted for brexit and now my business has gone to shit" of which there are a surprisingly large number. The whole "we didn't want them telling us what to do but didn't think they'd apply rules to us like we weren't in the EU" crowd.

mopsi 4mo ago

Millions of Leave voters have died in the decade since the referendum. Graph: https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/KELLNER-brexit-graphic-1024x930.jpg https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/202... Article: https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/peter-kellner-an-anti-brexit-majority-of-eight-million/ https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/peter-kellner-an-anti-brexit-m...