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That is a spectacular miss if I saw one ... both parrots and corvids exhibit very high intelligence and self-awareness, I have no problem accepting that they ar
by inglor_cz 5mo ago
That is a spectacular miss if I saw one ... both parrots and corvids exhibit very high intelligence and self-awareness, I have no problem accepting that they are conscious.
- graemep 5mo agoI doubt anyone would debate some of the implications of that. For example, it would be immoral to be deliberately or negligently cruel to them, for example.
- inglor_cz 5mo agoI agree that people aren't ready to discuss this. BTW I just saw this video: https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1twl7oj/raven_solves_a_puzzle_to_get_cashews/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1twl7oj/r... Yeah, that's corvids. Very obviously working towards goals and thinking quickly. Doesn't surprise me. Where I live, we have both magpies and jackdaws and I cannot describe them better than "harmless, but very organized gangs". Just a few days ago I saw them raiding an open trash can and two strongest(?) birds were fishing out edible stuff from the inside and throwing it to their waiting friends outside. I mean, beak to beak: the raider just looked back, measured the throw, and the other bird perfectly caught the morsel and ate it.