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I live in the EU and I use kagi, but I think you fail to understand why kagi is good and useful. In the end of the day I need a search engine to find stuff and

by alex7o 4mo ago

I live in the EU and I use kagi, but I think you fail to understand why kagi is good and useful. In the end of the day I need a search engine to find stuff and kagi is better than google for the things I and my AI agents are searching for. If you don't get that no amount of better privacy is worth my time as a person as shit searches mean agents don't works so well a.k.a more expensive or my room becomes toastier for the agents that I run locally. (I can use it for boring personal searches, but I do 2/3 of these a day, so I am not paying 5€ for that)

scrollaway 4mo ago
Agreed. The noise in tech circles often gets founders to conflate ten different things into a product that no longer makes sense. “Eu made alternative to Kagi”? Cool, we need European search engines, sign me up. “Privacy is such a priority we’re looking to accept cash by mail”? Okay, you’re never gonna build a serious competitor, never mind.
- wolvoleo 4mo ago
  Yeah Mullvad that accept cash in the post are not a serious VPN provider at all, right.
  - scrollaway 4mo ago
    You seem to not understand that a search engine and a VPN don't have the same audience, and certainly not the same needs for focus. It's ok, we all have our flaws.
    - wolvoleo 4mo ago
      They are very comparable from a privacy standpoint IMO. A search engine and a VPN both get quite a lot of insight in your interests and browsing habits because a lot of browsing sessions start with a search.
NoboruWataya 4mo ago
Have you tried Uruky and found it to be lacking? Totally agree with you, but I don't see many people here saying they've had a bad experience with this. (I haven't used it)
- alex7o 4mo ago
  To be fully hones no I haven't, but for me to switch I need some proof that I would have good experience. Like sell me on having good experience and I will try your product for a week, have a good experience and I will use your product from now on. But I. Their case most likely not, the thing I use kagi most for is ai agents with kagi search it works insanely well for me.

by alex7o 4mo ago

scrollaway 4mo ago

Agreed. The noise in tech circles often gets founders to conflate ten different things into a product that no longer makes sense. “Eu made alternative to Kagi”? Cool, we need European search engines, sign me up. “Privacy is such a priority we’re looking to accept cash by mail”? Okay, you’re never gonna build a serious competitor, never mind.

wolvoleo 4mo ago
Yeah Mullvad that accept cash in the post are not a serious VPN provider at all, right.
- scrollaway 4mo ago
  You seem to not understand that a search engine and a VPN don't have the same audience, and certainly not the same needs for focus. It's ok, we all have our flaws.
  - wolvoleo 4mo ago
    They are very comparable from a privacy standpoint IMO. A search engine and a VPN both get quite a lot of insight in your interests and browsing habits because a lot of browsing sessions start with a search.

NoboruWataya 4mo ago

Have you tried Uruky and found it to be lacking? Totally agree with you, but I don't see many people here saying they've had a bad experience with this. (I haven't used it)

alex7o 4mo ago
To be fully hones no I haven't, but for me to switch I need some proof that I would have good experience. Like sell me on having good experience and I will try your product for a week, have a good experience and I will use your product from now on. But I. Their case most likely not, the thing I use kagi most for is ai agents with kagi search it works insanely well for me.