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> EU search providers (Marginalia, Mojeek, EUSP, etc.). Does this mean this is just a meta search engine without its own index? If so, the comparison to Kagi

> EU search providers (Marginalia, Mojeek, EUSP, etc.). Does this mean this is just a meta search engine without its own index? If so, the comparison to Kagi seems misleading. The question would turn from "why not Kagi" to "why not SearxNG".

freehorse 5mo ago
Kagi is also a metasearch engine, as it combines several third-party indexes.
SyneRyder 5mo ago
Kagi is also a meta search engine. The only Kagi-owned index is Teclis, which is very small and really only indexes RSS feeds of small sites. The Kagi API supplements its Teclis results with additional results from Marginalia. It would be nice to have more search indexes available though, especially via APIs. I wish Kagi was a search index, back when I was a Kagi subscriber that's what I hoped my funds were going towards building.
BrunoBernardino 5mo ago
Good question! We also have Uruky Site Search, our own index, which is quite tiny at the moment, but we hope to grow, eventually. Kagi's own index is Teclis, which is one of their smaller providers as well.
- aniviacat 5mo ago
  Sounds good, thanks for the clarification.
- SyneRyder 5mo ago
  If you are building out your own index, might you consider offering it as an API via pre-paid credits (ala Mojeek, Kagi Teclis?) I'm only paying Mojeek about $10 - $20 per year in API for my personal metasearch, so I guess this is a terrible market to enter ;) But I'd genuinely be interested, especially if the money is going towards building an index.
  - BrunoBernardino 5mo ago
    Uruky does exactly that (it has an API and any searches fund the search providers directly). If you want to _exclusively_ use Uruky Site Search (our index), though, that'd be impossible as it's too small to be used as an exclusive provider. Probably in the future that'll be possible, though. I'd recommend you look into any of our other search providers if you just want the API search!
mhitza 5mo ago
Comparison with Kagi is making them more harm than good. Only way they are comparable is that both want to charge money for search and there are a few options to personalize search results. Their UX is really at most a proof of concept, not good enough for daily use.

freehorse 5mo ago

Kagi is also a metasearch engine, as it combines several third-party indexes.

SyneRyder 5mo ago

Kagi is also a meta search engine. The only Kagi-owned index is Teclis, which is very small and really only indexes RSS feeds of small sites. The Kagi API supplements its Teclis results with additional results from Marginalia. It would be nice to have more search indexes available though, especially via APIs. I wish Kagi was a search index, back when I was a Kagi subscriber that's what I hoped my funds were going towards building.

BrunoBernardino 5mo ago

Good question! We also have Uruky Site Search, our own index, which is quite tiny at the moment, but we hope to grow, eventually. Kagi's own index is Teclis, which is one of their smaller providers as well.

aniviacat 5mo ago
Sounds good, thanks for the clarification.
SyneRyder 5mo ago
If you are building out your own index, might you consider offering it as an API via pre-paid credits (ala Mojeek, Kagi Teclis?) I'm only paying Mojeek about $10 - $20 per year in API for my personal metasearch, so I guess this is a terrible market to enter ;) But I'd genuinely be interested, especially if the money is going towards building an index.
- BrunoBernardino 5mo ago
  Uruky does exactly that (it has an API and any searches fund the search providers directly). If you want to _exclusively_ use Uruky Site Search (our index), though, that'd be impossible as it's too small to be used as an exclusive provider. Probably in the future that'll be possible, though. I'd recommend you look into any of our other search providers if you just want the API search!

mhitza 5mo ago

Comparison with Kagi is making them more harm than good. Only way they are comparable is that both want to charge money for search and there are a few options to personalize search results. Their UX is really at most a proof of concept, not good enough for daily use.