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> So the choice to use fossil fuels might just be some performative machismo, allowing their pick-ups to output black smoke, make a loud noise and look "tough."
by roenxi 5mo ago
> So the choice to use fossil fuels might just be some performative machismo, allowing their pick-ups to output black smoke, make a loud noise and look "tough."
Might be linked to petrol cars being cheaper to buy for the same amount of car? That seems like an easier explanation. There is a masculine element in that men want to be seen to own big things to show off, but I doubt it has anything to do with liking black smoke. If they wanted loud noises they'd go a motorbike or get an obnoxious horn.
- georgemcbay 5mo agoLook up the phrase "rolling coal". These people do exist, unfortunately.
- ethbr1 5mo agoFor those who don't live adjacent to rednecks: https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=rolling+coal https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=rolling+coal
- foo-bar-bat 5mo agoYou have no idea what you're talking about. Respectfully,
- vel0city 5mo agoYou have absolutely no idea what you're talking about if you don't know anything about rolling coal and you don't realize people like to drive loud cars. I've had several friends tell me they just couldn't drive an EV because it just doesn't have a soul, meaning it doesn't have that roar for its performance. It being nearly silent as it accelerates hard is missing half the point. It's a common thing among car enthusiasts.
- roenxi 5mo ago[flagged]
- vel0city 5mo ago1) I see multiple people doing it every day and my commute is <5mi. 2) These people hate fake engine noises even more. Making it blow fake smoke and make fake noises would be even more of a turn off. Once again, not knowing that really shows you don't have a clue about what you're talking about. > The major factor for people buying a petrol-powered car is almost certainly the cost. If the main reason was the cost they wouldn't be spending almost $100k on SUVs and pickups that get like 14mpg to go get groceries and pickup the kids from school.
- gacgacgac 5mo agoRolling coal is extremely not niche. I live in a progressive place and I see it regularly. I'd encourage you to pause and learn about the culture from the many posters here before making surface level assertions.
- yifanl 5mo agoFeelings don't care about your facts. It's far cheaper to be vegetarian than not, how many vegetarians do you know?
- Danox 5mo agoAppalachia area is a big place... Its not niche.
- HeyLaughingBoy 5mo ago> They'd get to exactly the same end point This statement is enough to make it perfectly clear that you have no idea what you're talking about.
- garethsprice 5mo agoYou are, I see, a member of the "reality-based community" as Karl Rove presciently put it back in 2004. You live in a mental space where you critically evaluate facts and make decisions aimed at maximizing your outcome in life. You would do well to explore this great nation of ours and realize that a wild and terrifyingly large number of its inhabitants travel in an almost unimaginably different headspace. The men who roll coal are not doing it in cheap beater cars. A Ram or F-150 Super Duty is a $40-80,000 vehicle which requires $200-$5,000 in modifications so they can pull up next to a Prius ($28-36,000) and belch out thick black lib-ownin' ball-crushin' smoke, damaging their own engine in the process. You may ask them why, to which they'd spit a wad of brown tobacco in your face and scream in primal rage into the air: because f*k you, that's why.
- throwaway173738 5mo agoI can attest that a lot of “car culture” and “motorcycle culture” people want the car or motorcycle to be as loud as possible. Where I live they’re frequently interrupting conversations and waking children up. It’s a major nuisance.
- wookmaster 5mo agoNo, it’s tribalism of sorts. For men they’ll often paint something they don’t understand with words like that. I grew up in a culture that did that and won’t go back. Many many humans lack basic curiosity about the world.
- estearum 5mo agoIf "petrol cars" wasn't a dead giveaway of not being American, the rest of the comment confirms it. No clue what you're talking about.
- qingcharles 5mo agoI was in the gas station recently and heard a girl talking to her friend. She said she'd never date a guy who didn't drive a pick-up and would definitely never date a guy who paid with a [credit/debit] card. She said "cards are for girls." There are still a ton of cash transactions out here in the sticks. When I ask why they say they don't want the government knowing their business. But I guess from that conversation it also helps you get a date?