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Sure, I'll grow up and listen to riffs about how inhaling bleach fumes "gets in the lungs and does a tremendous number" or being exposed to a "very powerful lig

Sure, I'll grow up and listen to riffs about how inhaling bleach fumes "gets in the lungs and does a tremendous number" or being exposed to a "very powerful light" are thought by same man above as a potential remedy for same disease with 100% seriousness.

stldev 4mo ago
Hey now! The man is _acing_ the multitude of cognitive tests that doctors keep giving him.
lostmsu 4mo ago
> being exposed to a "very powerful light" Isn't ultraviolet sanitization a thing? Are you sure this quote isn't another bit taken out of context that would further prove the point?
- nancyminusone 4mo ago
  He did not tell anyone to do these things nor do I claim he did. He did ask his staff to "look into" whether either of these sanitation methods "could be used inside the human body", which is a bit like if I asked my doctor if I could eat laundry soap and shampoo instead of showering and doing laundry. The very fact that these ideas exist inside a US president's skull is VERY SAD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.
  - lostmsu 4mo ago
    Again, no quotes. But even as-is the idea of using ultraviolet to disinfect internal surfaces is not bonkers to any degree. Like I could see it working for nasal disinfection. In fact that's so obvious, that given you get very sad that someone else could even consider that tells me that you don't really know what you are talking about. Ironically, unlike Trump. Won't comment on the bleach one without a quote though.
    - nancyminusone 4mo ago
      have a read for yourself: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-31/ https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/re... As for me, I don't think you need a phd to read the warning stickers on bleach and isoproponal which say "do not injest" [2] [3] or warnings on germicidal lamps that say "do not expose to eyes or skin" [4]. If you do or have otherwise hidden knowledge why these should be ignored, say so. [2] https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/cloroxregular-bleach12015-06-12.pdf https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/cloroxre... [3] https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=AC423830040&productDescription=ISOPROPANOL+P.A.+4LT&vendorId=VN00033901&countryCode=US&language=en https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=AC423830040&... [4] https://www.mscdirect.com/knowledge-center/articles/safety-tips-using-germicidal-lamps https://www.mscdirect.com/knowledge-center/articles/safety-t... Next you will tell me that he isnt talking about UVC lamps, and I'll have to admit he speaks so vaguely that you can interpert his own words as almost anything.
      - lostmsu 4mo ago
        Why do I have to present evidence for something I'm not claiming? Your response fits the picture drawn by the comment on out of context. > As for me, I don't think you need a phd to read the warning stickers on bleach and isoproponal which say "do not injest" Yes, but you need more brainpower to understand that these warnings are for specific products and can't be generalized without research. The concept that dangerous substances are widely used in medicine in right quantities with right delivery methods is rather well known, and since you don't appear to grasp the connection after multiple comments alluding to it... well, that doesn't paint your opinion about Trump in a good light.
        nancyminusone 4mo ago
        You are welcome to paint my opinion of trump in any color of light you like as long as it isn't UV-C.

stldev 4mo ago

Hey now! The man is _acing_ the multitude of cognitive tests that doctors keep giving him.

lostmsu 4mo ago

> being exposed to a "very powerful light" Isn't ultraviolet sanitization a thing? Are you sure this quote isn't another bit taken out of context that would further prove the point?

nancyminusone 4mo ago
He did not tell anyone to do these things nor do I claim he did. He did ask his staff to "look into" whether either of these sanitation methods "could be used inside the human body", which is a bit like if I asked my doctor if I could eat laundry soap and shampoo instead of showering and doing laundry. The very fact that these ideas exist inside a US president's skull is VERY SAD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.
- lostmsu 4mo ago
  Again, no quotes. But even as-is the idea of using ultraviolet to disinfect internal surfaces is not bonkers to any degree. Like I could see it working for nasal disinfection. In fact that's so obvious, that given you get very sad that someone else could even consider that tells me that you don't really know what you are talking about. Ironically, unlike Trump. Won't comment on the bleach one without a quote though.
  - nancyminusone 4mo ago
    have a read for yourself: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-31/ https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/re... As for me, I don't think you need a phd to read the warning stickers on bleach and isoproponal which say "do not injest" [2] [3] or warnings on germicidal lamps that say "do not expose to eyes or skin" [4]. If you do or have otherwise hidden knowledge why these should be ignored, say so. [2] https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/cloroxregular-bleach12015-06-12.pdf https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/cloroxre... [3] https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=AC423830040&productDescription=ISOPROPANOL+P.A.+4LT&vendorId=VN00033901&countryCode=US&language=en https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=AC423830040&... [4] https://www.mscdirect.com/knowledge-center/articles/safety-tips-using-germicidal-lamps https://www.mscdirect.com/knowledge-center/articles/safety-t... Next you will tell me that he isnt talking about UVC lamps, and I'll have to admit he speaks so vaguely that you can interpert his own words as almost anything.
    - lostmsu 4mo ago
      Why do I have to present evidence for something I'm not claiming? Your response fits the picture drawn by the comment on out of context. > As for me, I don't think you need a phd to read the warning stickers on bleach and isoproponal which say "do not injest" Yes, but you need more brainpower to understand that these warnings are for specific products and can't be generalized without research. The concept that dangerous substances are widely used in medicine in right quantities with right delivery methods is rather well known, and since you don't appear to grasp the connection after multiple comments alluding to it... well, that doesn't paint your opinion about Trump in a good light.
      - nancyminusone 4mo ago
        You are welcome to paint my opinion of trump in any color of light you like as long as it isn't UV-C.