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It's becoming painfully evident that no one really understood the argument behind the Turing test.
by qarl 5mo ago
It's becoming painfully evident that no one really understood the argument behind the Turing test.
- yen223 5mo agoWhat is the argument behind the Turing test?
- qarl 5mo agohttps://chatgpt.com/share/6a20ca50-f8a8-83e8-8396-13d71c070dd6 https://chatgpt.com/share/6a20ca50-f8a8-83e8-8396-13d71c070d...
- mohamedkoubaa 5mo agoIt honestly isn't a good test
- qarl 5mo agoHeh. It's not really a test. It's a line of argument. I rest my case. :)
- throw4847285 5mo agoI think Turing was wrong because he was uncomfortable with ambiguity, and the Turing Test basically is a way to avoid philosophical argument, but it is ultimately a philosophical argument anyway. Plenty of computer scientists have followed in Turing's footsteps, terrified of ambiguity, relying on a kind of cheap functionalism as a salve. You can claim to just be doing science, but inevitably you dip into metaphysics and deny you are doing so. That's this thread in a nutshell. "I only believe what I can prove, but I suspect that if I can't prove it then I don't have to worry about it." My argument, is that you have to worry about it anyway.
- qarl 5mo agoI'm pretty sure Turing knew he was making a philosophical argument.
- ludston 5mo agoIf nobody understood the argument, then it was either weak or unclearly communicated.
- qarl 5mo agoHeh. And yet it's widely respected. How odd the crowd is here tonight. Very aggressively disagreeable.
- ludston 5mo agoI've seen a few of your comments here today, and generally speaking they are appeals to authority, ad-hominem attacks dressed in allusions to superiority in either knowledge or manners, and truisms without substance. In a manner of speaking: bait. So I guess I'm probably unsurprised if your experience of this is people seeming disagreeble towards you.
- qarl 5mo agoHeh. Well then, you probably shouldn't waste your time talking to me! Take care, friend.