> you do not get good understand of what is really going on at the machine level I'd argue understanding "what is really going on at the machine level" shouldn

> you do not get good understand of what is really going on at the machine level I'd argue understanding "what is really going on at the machine level" shouldn't be the primary goal of your first programming language. Java has a huge barrier to entry before one starts programming. Huge barriers to entry don't belong in a 141 course.