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Does not run on the Neo, unfortunately.

by drnick1 5mo ago

cromka 5mo ago
Well if you're looking at XPS13 then a comparable machine is a MacBook Air M1 or M2, not a Neo. You can get an M1 refurb for 600 USD, AFAIK Costco sells them at that price in the US. Or buy used for even less. It will still match or surpass that XPS13's performance and battery life.
- static_motion 5mo ago
  I think they were talking about the upcoming XPS 13 that's based on the new Intel Wildcat Lake platform and will be priced very close to the MB Neo, so it's pretty comparable. It wouldn't be fair to compare it to something that starts at $1000.
  - cromka 5mo ago
    > It wouldn't be fair to compare it to something that starts at $1000. But that's my point: first-gen M1 Air is still available and costs 600 USD.
    - static_motion 5mo ago
      You're right, I skimmed over the latter part of your comment. I don't know about your claim that M1/M2 will outperform Wildcat Lake in performance and battery life though, do we know specific figures to be able to say that for sure?
      - cromka 5mo ago
        M1/M2 matches Panther lake i5 chips in performance and still excels at efficiency. Hard to imagine Wildcat can do anything extra here.
        static_motion 5mo ago
        I'm sorry but your first claim has no basis in reality. Any benchmark shows the lowest end Panther Lake chip performing at least 15% faster than M1 and 10% faster than M2 in single core performance which is where Apple Silicon excels, and greatly outperforming them in both multi-core and GPU performance while having equivalent battery life.
        cromka 5mo ago
        https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/7322vs4922/Intel-5-315-vs-Apple-M2-8-3500-MHz https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/7322vs4922/Intel-5-315-... Not sure what you're referring to. 5-10% of different is exactly what I meant by "matching". The real-life battery numbers also don't support your statement, as tested by e.g. notebookcheck.com And, again, the actual context is Wildcat Lake here, an step down from Panther Lake.

Does not run on the Neo, unfortunately.

by drnick1 5mo ago

Does not run on the Neo, unfortunately.

Well if you're looking at XPS13 then a comparable machine is a MacBook Air M1 or M2, not a Neo. You can get an M1 refurb for 600 USD, AFAIK Costco sells them at that price in the US. Or buy used for even less. It will still match or surpass that XPS13's performance and battery life.

static_motion 5mo ago
I think they were talking about the upcoming XPS 13 that's based on the new Intel Wildcat Lake platform and will be priced very close to the MB Neo, so it's pretty comparable. It wouldn't be fair to compare it to something that starts at $1000.
- cromka 5mo ago
  > It wouldn't be fair to compare it to something that starts at $1000. But that's my point: first-gen M1 Air is still available and costs 600 USD.
  - static_motion 5mo ago
    You're right, I skimmed over the latter part of your comment. I don't know about your claim that M1/M2 will outperform Wildcat Lake in performance and battery life though, do we know specific figures to be able to say that for sure?
    - cromka 5mo ago
      M1/M2 matches Panther lake i5 chips in performance and still excels at efficiency. Hard to imagine Wildcat can do anything extra here.
      - static_motion 5mo ago
        I'm sorry but your first claim has no basis in reality. Any benchmark shows the lowest end Panther Lake chip performing at least 15% faster than M1 and 10% faster than M2 in single core performance which is where Apple Silicon excels, and greatly outperforming them in both multi-core and GPU performance while having equivalent battery life.
        cromka 5mo ago
        https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/7322vs4922/Intel-5-315-vs-Apple-M2-8-3500-MHz https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/7322vs4922/Intel-5-315-... Not sure what you're referring to. 5-10% of different is exactly what I meant by "matching". The real-life battery numbers also don't support your statement, as tested by e.g. notebookcheck.com And, again, the actual context is Wildcat Lake here, an step down from Panther Lake.