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Yes? The country is named Türkiye, we should use that name? The etymology here is interesting and has a looooong history. The country has officially been named
by gacgacgac 5mo ago
Yes? The country is named Türkiye, we should use that name?
The etymology here is interesting and has a looooong history. The country has officially been named Türkiye for over a century.
- jnwatson 5mo agoAnd Germany's official name is "Bundesrepublik Deutschland". I get to call it Germany though.
- triceratops 5mo agoBut not germany.
- marky1991 5mo agoThis sort of language policing is pointless.
- triceratops 5mo agoI mean it matters here. "turkey" and "Turkey" legitimately have different meanings.
- marky1991 5mo agoSo does 'mark' and 'Mark', that doesn't mean I correct everyone (or myself) every time they/I type my name without using a capital letter.
- triceratops 5mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48388057 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48388057
- BigGreenJorts 5mo agoOk but are there Wired articles about you?
- gacgacgac 5mo agoHas Germany said they should be called Deutschland by English speakers?
- IncreasePosts 5mo agoIs it a right of any nation to assert what other nations call it? Can America ask China to stop calling them 美国 (Měiguó) and call them the USA? The problem with the turkey rebranding is that it was a mere orthographic update, but it is using orthography that is very non standard(whatever that means for English), including using a diacritic rarely seen in English. I could get behind it more if they completely changed the name, like a when Swaziland switched to eswatini. But for now, you can pry turkey from my cold dead hands
- triceratops 5mo ago> But for now, you can pry turkey from my cold dead hands Big fan of Thanksgiving foods I see. (Do you see the real problem? Lowercasing a proper noun that has another meaning when lowercased. Turkey/Türkiye is just the cherry on top)
- patates 5mo agoIf you need an example, look at the Peking->Beijing transition.
- suddenlybananas 5mo agohttps://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin Turkish still uses the old term. Why should I change my language to suit them if they won't do it for others.
- olalonde 5mo agoGermany's official English name is Germany[0]. [0] https://unterm.un.org/unterm2/en/view/745bbc2a-fc50-4b94-bb96-2ff7ed380081 https://unterm.un.org/unterm2/en/view/745bbc2a-fc50-4b94-bb9...
- tracerbulletx 5mo agoWords come from the people who use them. The name for a place is in the context of the language and culture that is using the word to reference it.
- suddenlybananas 5mo agoI will call them Turkiye when they call Greece Hellas, Germany Deutschland and China Zhongguo in Turkish.
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- gacgacgac 5mo agoHave those countries made those requests?
- suddenlybananas 5mo agoYou and I both know that Turkey would never do such a thing.
- triceratops 5mo agoRegular Turkish people may not. The Turkish government, in official diplomatic communications, most certainly would if those countries requested it. I don't think we are required to start calling it Turkey in the vernacular. Regular Turkish people don't have to change their names for countries in their language either. I only pointed out Turkey/Türkiye in my original post to head off smart-asses. Using proper casing for the name is much more important.
- suddenlybananas 5mo agohttps://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin Turkish doesn't seem to respect the wishes of the Chinese government with regard to Beijing.